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Thankfully a lot of those "mid" guys either come with super cheap deals or some control, or both. I could truly see any of Banks, Brebbia, Flexen, Kopech, Soroka, DeJong, Lopez, AV, Pham and Sheets moved. Pham, Kopech, DeJong, AV, Brebbia and even Banks would/should all return something of interest, imo.

Agreed. With a 1.5 years of control and an arm like that, you can get a pretty good prospect imo.

This is absolutely unequivocally how Getz should handle those 2 players.

While I don't disagree there is a fairly substantial talent difference between the two major league clubs at the moment, using Santana and Wallner as examples is pretty comical. Also lets maybe pump the brakes a tad on Lee, guy has 35 MLB plate appearances. He sure looks like he's going be a good player, but long way to go before calling him a perennial all star. Correa is indeed a great player though. Twins got lucky with how that FA pursuit played out. Still a decent bit of risk in that contract for the Twins who generally spend even less $ than the Sox, and Correa does get a hurt a lot and the ankle problem still exists.

My mistake.

Soon enough. I know you have them both being DFA in August, but I doubt that. Would sure be nice if Eloy would give a parting gift and get red hot the next couple weeks...

Moncada just doesn't matter any more. Its like having a $1 lottery ticket and not scratching it off because you don't think it'll cash out anything. Chances are remote that it will, but whats the harm? If he hurts himself pushing it too hard to come back, you're in the same spot you're in taking it easy with him. It really doesn't matter - he's gone after 2024 regardless.

Lol what’s the harm here? If he gets hurt again, so what. May as well ride him like mule at this point. Realistically Yoan isn’t getting traded due to the economics, but maybe he comes back, gets hot and someone is persuaded to give the Sox a lottery ticket on deadline day and Sox save a few mill to throw at a reliever in the offseason. Theres really no harm here.

Both Painter and Crawford are 55 FV prospects, fwiw. So the math doesn't really check out here.

He's been an average 3 WAR player WITH all the injuries. That's the point. Even if Robert averages ~115 games the from 2025-2027 and does not really improve on his average season from 21-24, he's still a bargain at $18M AAV. You also have him for the last 2.5 months of 2024. But the acquiring team now holds all the upside, with cost certainly (and downside protection with the options), and putting him on a team that better prepares him to succeed won't hurt. I can understand why an opposing GM would be cautious; Robert has never really fully figured it out and goes weeks without looking like he knows how to hit major league pitching and is often injured. He is not a perfect player. But he is certainly a player you can dream on, and even if he just is what he is, that is still a VERY valuable player.

It is factored in. $18M AAV from 25-27 is a bargain for Robert. Even factoring in his injury history, he's still over a 3 fWAR player the past four seasons with the upside for 5+ if he plays 150. Imagine if he actually figure it all out. Plus the last two years are options, so the acquiring team has protection for a brutal injury.

If Robert puts in a 2023 type season (and he's certainly capable of more) in the first half of 2025, he's worth a lot more than he is right now. There is no rush to take the best offer for Robert this July. If someone gets aggressive and makes an offer you can't refuse, by all means trade him. I certainly understand the risk in keeping him. But he's still just 26 and his enormous upside potential - the value will always be there, and the control is long enough that they could even withstand a somewhat serious injury and still get a nice return in a couple years.

Wilson had 2 full years of service heading into 2024. He's got plenty of control (and optioning his could create more), so they have plenty of time to turn him into a viable trade asset. He really hasn't been that great this season, and they do need relievers, and he is cheap, so no reason why you can't hold him through 2025.

Very interesting choice with Wilson. One thing to consider, if he spends about 3 weeks in the minors Sox will get another year of control and he'd be controlled through 2028, instead of 2027.

Six or seven years is a really long time. The Sox have virtually nothing committed to future payrolls outside of Robert and Benintendi. The farm system is at least average, and is about to get better. I would think the Sox could be competitive by 2026 with a mixture of continued development of prospects, signing the right players (hah!) and some luck in the health department never hurts.

If teams don't meet the sky high price, keep him. Its really that simple. Robert isn't getting traded until next July or the offseason following 2025.

Robert would be 5-6 WAR player in that lineup.

I still can't believe Beni is really this bad. He can't be this bad. Even if he can be a 1-1.5 WAR player, the contract is fine. I'd honestly rather just keep him thru 2025 than eat the $ for him to play elsewhere and bounceback to a decent player.

I bet there is a decent chance he is a replacement once guys start falling out due to being unavailable to pitch. He's worthy.

That’s cool. Carela is interesting

Hope you’re right!

I didn’t pick him because I’m just not convinced anyone is going to want him.

Zzzz

Guessing/hoping this is sarcasm. I doubt Sox will attach Beni to either of those guys.

You can rest assured they won’t do that.