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I don't understand how this is so hard for you to process. Over the last two seasons, per fWAR, Nick Castellanos has been THE WORST outfield defender in the ENTIRE game. Last season alone, Castellanos was -12.6 dfWAR and Eloy was -11 dfWAR. That is the worst and the ~10th worst outfield defenders in the game. Committing to that situation long term is insane. Especially with our young pitching staff. Please try to understand that.

I think the Mets would want a pretty penny for Diaz. He's interesting no doubt, but I am not ready to give up one of our blue chippers for him.

I don't love the fit either, and not really advocating for it. Just sharing that he appears to be nearing a decision.

Mazara is a slightly below average RF (not awful), he mashes RHP, and adds much need balance to the lineup. He's not perfect, but he is also a 1 year stopgap. Maybe he blows up and he sticks around for 2 years, but if he's the same Mazara he's always been in 2020, we'll have a new RF in 2021. Castellanos or Ozuna isn't happening, man. They don't make any sense at this point.

Sounds like Will Harris is nearing a decision.

Arenado doesn't have a ton of surplus value. I wouldn't give up any of our top guys assuming we're taking the whole deal. I would do something like Stiever / Dunning + Collins + Rutherford + backend top 30 throw in. But I don't think the Rockies would even answer the phone call. Someone would beat that deal handily. Arenado is great, but with that contract, we shouldn't be giving up any of the elite prospects, who frankly should have more trade value than a guy making $35M the next 6 seasons. Plus, then we gotta figure out where to move our best player again.

Imagine committing to the worst OF defense in the league for the duration of their contract.

The Twins quite likely have the worst defense in the game when Buxton isn’t playing, which is most of the time.

In a pretty flukey season of career years. I just don’t see it happening again. I think they’re like an 85-88 win team right now. Buxton is such a huge key for them. They’re so much better when he plays, but that’s as good as a coin flip.

Would be cool to turn a couple of the 40 man filler guys into a pen piece. Need a space for EE anyway. You can always use more pen arms, but I’m actually not SUPER concerned about the pen. I’m hoping Hamilton and Burdi can at least play roles. Along with Colome, Bummer, Fry and Cordero hopefully we can at least have an average pen already.

Just strange to me how some Sox fans put the Twins on a pedestal. The Sox have been mostly a dumpster fire for a decade, so I get it in that respect, but the Twins haven’t done shit. It’s an org that frankly has produced very little to be jealous of. My take opinion is a little unique seeing as though I’ve lived the majority of my life in MN, all my best friends are Twins fans, and therefore I know more about the Twins than most “Twins fans”, but still.

The Twins haven’t won a playoff game since before the White Sox won the World Series.

Most of them are.

39 games, yes. I don’t. I think this is it. They like Thorpe a lot. Graterol likely starts in AA, he may factor in later in the season as needed, but the most innings he’s ever thrown is 102 in a season. Berrios-Odo-Pineda-Hill-Bailey/Thorpe/Graterol is alright, but they won’t actually be throwing those guys out in tandem much at all this season. I also think Berrios’ elbow is worth monitoring. He lost a lot of velocity on his FB towards the middle to back end of the season. They really need him to stay healthy (obviously).

I’ve known about this for a little bit. Good news for our Sox. Hill will be a decent piece for them at some point, but he is going to miss half the season. Pretty encouraging for the Sox - a Berrios, Odorizzi, Bailey, Thorpe, Smeltzer rotation to start the year isn’t very good. Though it obviously gets better with Pinedia joining the fold in late May and Hill sometime in the summer. Twins definitely want Donaldson. But whether they’re willing to be the high bidder remains to be seen.

I don't think he's going to walk enough to have a .345 OBP with a .295 average. With the lineup the way it is now, people would be nuts to walk Madrigal. I know he has good plate displince, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him have OBPs over .350 later in his career, but that is a really solid output as a rookie.

If the offense is that good, the Sox are going to win more than 88 games. Individually I don't think any are insane. I doubt Robert and Madrigal are THAT good as rookies. Eloy's OBP looks a little high. But the rest are pretty solid. I could see Timmy batting more like .285, but certainly hope he beats .300 again.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/ This is accurate. Add in $18M for Keuchel and ~$9M for pre-arb guys and you get to $120.5M.

Approximately $120M, give or take a mill.

Last year our RF amassed -2.8 fWAR. Our DH's amassed -3.9 fWAR. Our 5th starters amassed -1.7 fWAR. Replacing DH with EE (2.0 fWAR projection), RF with Mazara (1.5 fWAR projection), and the carousel SP spot with Keuchel (2.5 fWAR projection) is about a 14.5 win swing without taking into account Grandal over Mccann, Robert over Engel/Leury, Madrigal over Yolmer, as well as anything we get from Kopech, Gio Gonzalez, Rodon etc. I would say we're about an 85 win team right now, and it could be lot better depending on primarily on how well Robert, Cease, Kopech, Madrigal and Lopez do.

I would bet on Timmy over Polanco next year. Both has awesome 2019s, and I expect both to regress a bit, but I think Polanco really took advantage of the juiced ball. The Twins IF defense is atrocious. Even if the sign Donaldson, its still going to be really bad.

There is a zero percent chance Engel is DFA'd before this season. Covey is probably safe for now as well, though he would certainly be on my short list. Zavala is probably gone for EE. Fulmer would be my next guess as he is out of options and is unlikely to last more than a week in the MLB pen, but I could see them giving him one last chance.

Yah, I literally just said that Ray.

I completely agree. Hopefully by 22, he is our clear #5 behind Gio, Cease, Kopech and whoever emerges as the 4th starter out of Lopez, Dunning, Stiever. At that point, you can easily manage his innings with skipped starts, skipping 5th starter early in the season, a quick DL stint, etc. That being said, would be nice to get clarity on if the vesting option is still in play.

From MLBTR: The Scott Boras client also has a fourth-year club/vesting option. Keuchel, the White Sox revealed, will earn $18MM annually, and the Sox hold a $1.5MM buyout on his 2023 option. His option will reportedly vest at $20MM if he pitches 160 innings in years two and three of the contract. Otherwise, it functions as a traditional club option. Soooo...maybe there is still some vesting component, though they could just have bad info or are still trying to incorporate in the old info.