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Give me Moncada over Donaldson and Madrigal over Arraez.

If he can stay healthy, this definitely hurts for 2020. But paying 35-37 YO Donaldson over $20M could be ugly. As others have said, let’s battle. Twins will score a lot of runs, but they’ll give up a lot too.

Obdel Herrera DFA'd. Quite a fall for that guy. With his contract, he'll definitely clear waivers and get released. Domestic violence charges are going to make it tough for other teams to give him a chance, but perhaps at the MLB minimum someone will roll the dic.e

Yah, looks like one of the early articles I read had bad info. My bad for passing it along. Good for Hinch. He should be able to get another job. The way it sounded early on, it was effectively a lifetime ban. Who is going to hire a guy just to have him be suspended for a year? With him seemingly allowing this to go on, but not the mastermind behind it, that seems fair.

Probably more likely that they don't really view Mercedes, and to a lesser extent Collins, anything more than emergency/occasional catchers at the MLB level. Without those two, its Zavala is really the only true catcher in AAA, tho he's certainly not great with the glove either. But I agree - I thought Zavala would be gone before Covey.

Right.

Because the White Sox are trying to win this year and weren't last year? This isn't that complicated. I agree $5.4M isn't alot of money for a team trying to win baseball games, which is why I think trading him for nothing makes no sense. I don't care to go back and look at my comments from over a year ago about McCann, but I would assume my issues at the time of signing had more to do with rolling the dice on a vet without much mlb success and with only 2 years fof control instead of just giving younger guys like Collins and Zavala opportunities in what was certainly going to be a lost season. I highly doubt my main criticism was the incremental cost difference between $2.5M and mlb minimum as you're seemingly suggesting.

Lol, really? Pointing out comments from over a year ago that were made shortly after McCann got non-tendered from one of the worst teams in baseball is pretty comical stuff. No, I was not a huge fan of McCann signing last year. But the guy was pretty dang good in 2020 and obviously the calculus has changed. Or is changing one's opinion based on the collection of additional information not allowed in the world of Dick Allen? No shit the Sox want Grandal to catch as much as possible. That doesn't mean you just trade McCann for scraps (which is likely all they'd get) because he doesn't appear to have a major role at the moment.

I would rather spend the $6M on Cishek AND keep McCann. The Sox aren't hurting for $, and don't need to punt McCann and his $5.4M salary to add another reliever. If they can trade McCann for a solid reliever, I won't complain. But I think that move would've been done if it was possible. I'd also rather have a real backup catcher. Collins may be a useful "gadgety" catcher, but I certainly don't want him as the only person capable of catching besides Grandal. JMO, but also appears to be the Sox.

There is a lot wrong with that with respect to Collins specifically.

So trading him (or McCann) for scraps accomplishes what exactly for the White Sox? Collins will get chances in 2020. He will be the first guy up if about 20% of the roster gets IL'd (Grandal, Mccann, Abreu, EE). Sox could move McCann mid season as well. No need to just punt Collins because he doesn't have an OD 2020 roster spot. What you're advocating for isn't good business.

He meant closer. As in, any time he spends on the MLB roster is that much time closer to FA. All of this is moot anyway. Collins is going to be in AAA. He'll get some chances with the Sox in 2020, but they're not going to give McCann away just so they can downgrade the major league team. Collins and McCann are both worth more to the Sox than they are in trade. Therefore, Collins will be in AAA.

"Trading the poor guy and let him have a decent shot somewher else" is a terrible way to run a baseball organization.

I don't think there is a bullpen in baseball that is filled with guys that don't give their fans anxiety. Sox pen isn't a major plus, but it should be average with upside.

At least we don't project to have any complete gas cans in the pen (assuming Herrera can bounce back some). With plenty of interesting arms in the upper minors in Hamilton, Burdi, Johnson, Heuer, Ruiz and Foster as back stops - not to mention SP like Dunning, Lambert, Steiver, Rodon, Lopez and Gonzalez who could be used in relief roles to ease into action or due to change of roles.

Opening Day Rotation: Giolito, Keuchel, Cease, Gonzalez, Lopez Pen: Colome, Bummer, Cishek, Fry, Herrera, Marshall, Cordero, Fulmer June 1 Rotation: Giolito, Keuchel, Kopech, Cease, Lopez Pen: Colome, Bummer, Cishek, Fry, Herrera, Cordero, Gonzalez, Hamilton August 1 Rotation: Giolito, Keuchel, Kopech, Cease, Lopez, Rodon Pen: Colome, Bummer, Cishek, Fry, Herrera, Cordero, Hamilton, Burdi

The Sox have basically trimmed ALLLLLLLLL of the 40 man fat and filler in a matter of 3 months. Its truly impressive.

Thanks!

Just refreshed my memory on those rules, and yah, he can't elect free agency. You need either 3+ years of MLB service time (he has 2 and change) or been outrighted previously, which he hasn't been. So chances are if Covey clears waivers, he'll be in Charlotte. Which is fine.

Flores, Kubat and (ugh) Detwiler should all be in the AAA rotation as well and could take a spot start if need be (hopefully there won't be a need). Flores on 40 man so probably top of the list with Dunning and Lambert missing the first half, at least.

Pretty sure I saw Saladino signed in a Japan a couple weeks ago.

Isn't it a requirement that in order to be able to elect free agency, you have to have been outrighted previously? I don't believe Covey has, and therefore I am not sure electing free agency will be an option for him. I could be wrong on that, but pretty sure that is the rule. Sox could elect to do a him a solid and release him upon request though.

Genuinely surprised here. Figured Covey was a few guys down the list. We have 5 "catchers" on the 40 man. But not sad to see him go. That said....he's likely to clear, so don't get too excited!!

Also curious what Clevenger did to his family....someone want to fill us in on the juicy gossip?

Ok, not what I read, but could be correct.