ChiSox59

Quite a thread here.

Lol, people are just joking around man. We all appreciate you sharing the info. No one is going to get banned (except maybe Ron).

Sox random dude says Bryce wants to live in Chicago, and someway or another Ron Kittle told someone the Sox currently have the best offer on the table. That is the scoop.

I think you're missing the point. A lot of people (myself included) don't want to trade him because he has minimal trade value. He is paid appropriately, therefore no one is going to give up any significant prospect for 1 year of Jose. What's the point in trading Jose for some back-end top 15 prospect from LAD that we'll DFA or leave exposed to the Rule 5 in 500 days because we have no room on the 40 man? We're at the point in the rebuild that we either need MLB ready guys we can give an opportunity to in 2019, or significant prospects. We're going to have a real 40 man crunch after the 2019 season - we don't need more middling prospects. I also think some people are ready to see the Sox take the next step in the rebuild. Trading out best bat doesn't exactly help that.

Zimmerman's 2013 and 2014 (he signed his deal after 2015) were pretty similar to Corbin's 2018. Zimmerman actually had significantly more ML success than Corbin prior to monster FA deal, and they were similar ages when big deal was signed.

At the end of the day, I just hope JR is ready to open the checkbook. If the Sox don't increase their payroll into the $150-$190M range in 2020-2025, this whole thing was never going to work. Harper on an effective 4 year / $190M-$200M (asusming he takes first opt out) is great, but if the Sox FO isn't willing to spend to finish out the roster, it wasn't really worth it.

Thanks for sharing Peavy44 - nice of you to do so. But I admit, that doesn't say a whole lot, and the dude just posted that on FB.

I don't think Harper will sign for quite some time.

Stephen Vogt.

We really don't need more LHP. We have four young legitimate left handed relievers with MLB experience.

I agree the the proposed deal is too light (as I already mentioned), but I don't think Arizona is getting any prospects of note if they don't kick in cash with Grienke. I think Grienke could be had for something like Curbelo + Stephens, if the Sox took on the whole thing.

I just don’t think Abreu has a ton of trade value. Man has a great stick and is paid appropriately for it. Little to no surplus value and limited defensively. Id move him for Ruiz in a second. But I’d blown away if LAD is offering anything near that.

David Peralta is another interesting Dbacks name. 2 years control. Unfortunately not a CF, would be an amazing fit if he could play there consistently.

Sounds like Eovaldi is going to the Red Sox.

I’d still do that deal in a heartbeat for the Sox even though it’s not the best fit with Kopech/Cease/Dunning all ready by 2020. Dbacks would want more for Ray.

You’re reading it wrong - Ray has 2 seasons of control.

Same, I’d rather keep him and try to make this team interesting than giving up before it’s even started for a middling prospect we probably won’t even have room for on the 40 man in 500 days.

I’d be pretty disappointed in trading Jose unless someone overpays.

Definitely too little, becaue I would probably do this deal in a heartbeat if I were the Sox. I don’t even particularly love the fit but Robbie Ray is really good even if you only get him for two seasons. I think dbacks would want quite a bit more, plus they just acquired Carson Kelly.

This reminds me of the Zimmerman deal for Detroit.

Plenty of value to be found in the FA market, especially nowadays, but yes, it generally is not found by paying mid rotation pitchers top of the market rates because they're the best options available.

Yes, I follow professor. This Corbin deal will be terrible for the Nats, and I will be happy to remind you of such when it occurs.

I do wonder what the Sox offered, if they even did.

As would I. But now we get to sit here and listen to Balta tell us how great of a move it is and how its market because the Sox didn't do it. Corbin is a good not great pitcher coming off a career. He may be worth that contract for 2 seasons. It will be a terrible contract before too long, and with all the sliders Corbin throws, he is a huge injury risk.

You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M.