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I just don’t see how Sheets will have a role on this club. He does nothing that Getz has preached.

I completely agree with the bolded, and said as much already. I would hold for now.

And waltz right out of the playoffs because pitching wins in the October.

I think most orgs would be happy to hold Santos on their 40 man through the winter (he can sit on the 60 day IL all season and not impact the 40 man), in hopes of him being the same guy he was in 2023 in 2025. He has 5 more years of control. 2025 would still be pre-arb. Of course, we don't know that he actually has a forearm strain significant enough for TJS. What we've heard from Getz is that he's rehabbing and doing well. Do we believe it? Meh. I think its fair to be skeptical. I also think its a huge leap to just write him off and call him valueless and not worth a 40 man spot.

WAT?

Even if Santos were injured and set to miss the whole season, he would have some value. That said, I personally wouldn't move him this offseason. Let him close to start the year, show he's healthy and then move him in July. Not trading him at the deadline was a big miss; he may well turn back into JAG with a big arm. But holding is a risk I am willing to take versus just tossing him in a deal with Cease . Feels a bit like just giving him away.

I’d say you need one top 5-10, one 25-40, two 50-100.

BEEF….its what’s for dinner here. Hmmm a steak sammy does sound kinda tasty.

This. No one is coming close to matching his price tag. Just trading him to the high bidder now would be a big mistake. Could get the same value in 2 years.

It’s not really potential anymore. He was a 5 tool superstar in 2023 and that wasn’t even close to his ceiling as he still have several long stretches of being completely helpless at the plate.

Guys gonna live til 105

Can we start Balta and Gal their own Cease trade value thread where they can debate whether Getz takes sunflower seeds, roisin or chewing gum in return for Cease?

He’s have to win the Cy Young in 24 to make $20M in 25. More like $14-15M. It’s an absolute bargain.

I’ve never read a more accurate Soxtalk post. Well done, Dick.

also, Grissom doesn’t really have a position. He doesn’t exactly fit the bill of what getz has been preaching. He is either below average shortstop or we’re putting an infielder in the outfield again.

Then I don’t see how ATL is anything but like the 5th or 6th best option for Cease.

AJ S-S, Kelenic, Grissom or Waldrep and Gonzales seems like a pretty solid return to me.

Most of this fanbase wanted to DFA Bummer last summer. Of course that was ridiculous but I’d say the Sox did decently well on that deal. Nothing exciting but some useful pierces for a transitional year and perhaps a couple guys turn into longer term role players. For an underachieving middle reliever coming off a ~7 ERA and getting paid a $7M+, not too bad.

While I doubt this is actually in the works, the Sox could certainly take back Gonzalez in the deal. Plenty of starts to go around. Something like AJ S-S, Kelenic, Waldrep or Grissom, and Gonzalez for Cease. Basically Sox take Gonzalez back to improve return. Certainly begs the question why it wasn’t just a three-way, tho.

Perhaps but the $ involved with Gonzalez and White makes that more complicated. I’m sure the Braves aren’t gonna turn around and add Kelenic to Smith-Shawver + but it’s intriguing enough to mention.

I don’t think BAL is getting involved in a Cease deal that doesn’t result in Cease being traded to BAL. This isn’t the show.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Not sure why you wouldn’t just do a three way deal if that’s the case but it’s at least worth mentioning. Kelenic still has a boatload of control.

Well that is interesting

Yes. I don’t get why everyone is in such a hurry to ship Colas out. Guy is a year removed from being the exact type Is prospect we need for RF. 2023 was an unmitigated disaster for him and he’s no longer plan A, but he has 2 options and is a gifted player. I see no reason to sell low on him.

Moncada is dead weight. He’ll be gone after 2024 regardless. Attaching him in a trade with any player of value would be malfeasance. Just let Yoan try to earn his next contract while playing good defense at 3B next season.