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I said its better to trade him before the next start, but you don't take a lesser offer than you think you can get a few days later due a remote chance he gets hurt. Hopefully they get their ask met in the next few days and its a non issue.

Ehh there’s plenty of ways he pitches for the Sox again. I’d certainly prefer to move him before his next start purely to avoid an injury, but if the Sox don’t get the offers they like, they should take it down to deadline day. This conversation sort of reminds me of conference tournaments in college hoops. Everyone is like my team needs to X, Y, Z to get into the dance or get this seed when it reality it has no impact. Short of an injury, Gios trade value isn’t changing by his performance next start, last start, or the start before.

Also true. Hoping Sox can bring back an MLB ready SP prospect for Gio, and hoping a fringy guy for one of the others and just rock a Cease, Kopech, Touki, TRADE 1, TRADE 2 rotation with some Scholtens and Banks mixed in. Really no point in throwing Clevinger anymore.

Last I heard on Clevinger was he threw 3 or 4 up and downs on Saturday (perhaps Friday?), and would throw 60 pitches his next time out but was undetermined where that would be (presumably either AAA, Chicago or another sim game). Have to wonder if they try to just do it in Chicago to show other teams he is healthy in hopes someone just takes his off their hands (unlikely). Thursday and Friday still reflect TBD starters.

Trade Giolito, Lynn, Kelly, Lopez, Middleton and Yaz to the highest bidders the next week. Fire the entire front office this offseason. Hire completely un-White Sox related individuals. Let them decide if Pedro deserves another chance, and let them try to reshape the roster for 2024. That's about the only way forward. The 2nd line is never happening though - even if they fire Hahn (I will believe it when I see it), its going to be the same dudes running this mess until JR moves on.

Hope Kelly gets a couple solid outings in and he’a moved at the deadline

I will be there. My four month olds first Sox game. Hope we bring home a W!

Id say the Padres are more embarrassing than the Sox, too.

Correct. I said likely. Most twins folks think he’ll be activated this weekend (scheduled to start in AAA on Sat), but they could stick him in the pen I suppose.

Keuchel is very likely to get a start this weekend.

Pedro's bullpen management is simply awful.

I welcome you to research all deals in MLB at $75M or over and show how many turned out well for the team. Spoiler alert: its a clear minority. Ie: that's just how free agency works.

And if you pro-rate that 2020 salary to the $6.75M he actually got paid, he was paid $25M to produce 5.2fWAR over the first 2 years of his deal, which worth about $45-50M. So he was a honestly a bargain the first two seasons, but the last two have been rough. But that's just free agency. Tough to b**** about the Sox not spending money, and then b**** when they do and you still have to pay guys after their prime. Its just how it works. (not directed at you, btw)

Yaz been hitting a bit lately. Hopefully enough for someone to grab him, because I agree - may as well just see what we have with Perez 3-4 days a week.

Don't blame him. Guy made over $130M in his career, and probably saved a good bit of it as he seems like an intelligent guy. I'd much rather golf, coach my kids teams and watch my money grow than the daily grind of a hitting coach. Not all that glamorous when you already have more than enough money to not ever have to worry about it.

Probably next week. Grifol said yesterday he needs 3-5 more games.

I blame last night's loss on the Mod's using the 2nd thread starters title when merging. Definite jinx.

Sox seem decently likely to face Keuchel this weekend. That’ll be interesting. He has an opt out on Friday and has pitched well in AAA.

Beni LF, TA SS, Robert CF, Burger 3B, Yaz DH, Sheets 1B, Perez C, Colas RF, Elvis Looks like a rough one on paper.

Beni LF, TA SS, Luis CF, AV 1B, Burger 3B, Yaz DH, Remy 2B, Colas RF, Seby C

May as well try to go 6-0 this week. ?

Need to see how the next 2 weeks go before we can even begin to answer this question. I imagine at least 2 of the guys we acquire in the next 10 days will be in the 2024 rotation along with Cease and Kopech.

Ya interpreted that comment from Frank as speculation.

Really don’t understand not sending him in that scenario.

LOL Strider tough enough without giving him 3 inches off the plate.