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QUOTE (flavum @ May 24, 2014 -> 10:00 AM) The Sox have survived the first 50 games of the season. Still in it. Let's see what the next 50 games bring, and if they're out of it on July 20, then it's time to move guys. . They are still in it at 25-25. Of course, last year, they were 24-24 at this point and we know how far south that went.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 24, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) As much as I'd hate to see Dunn go, his trade value is skyrocketing right now, and even if the Sox keep Dunn and sneak into a WC spot, I don't see the starting pitching there to make a serious postseason run. Some teams are going to be very desperate for a power bat come July. Not necessarily skyrocketing. He is on base to hit 25 homers and drive in 70 runs. Hopefully he looks acceptable playing 1st that an NL team might be tempted as well.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 23, 2014 -> 08:27 AM) Last night was fun. I'm glad we decided not to shut him down for ten years. As I posted during the game, if you are old enough= Sandy Koufax like

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 22, 2014 -> 09:36 PM) I know this is wrong but I want him to stay in until you know what. Heat of the moment I gues He looks like like Sandy Koufax. Totally overpowering.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 22, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) How do you figure? Was it the 117 wRC+ (a league adjusted stat) in AAA? The 108 wRC+ in MLB? Maybe the .308/.341/.564 line in spring training this year? Was the 17% K rate in that stretch too high? The first time you could make a half decent argument that he looked like a non-regular would have been a couple weeks into his stint at Charlotte So far he is a strikeout machine in 1.25 seasons at AAA. He has struck out at a 33% K rate between last year and this year and he is up to close to a 40% K rate this season. He makes Dunn and Flowers look like contact hitters.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 21, 2014 -> 06:01 PM) LaMarr Houston (new Bears DL) will be throwing out the first pitch tomorrow before Sale's start. If Houston gets hurt doing it, we will know the mound is too high.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 19, 2014 -> 08:41 PM) I think Quintana being moved might be a possibility given the long-term pitching issues we have. Actually they may be short term pitching issues. They could get a stud in the draft and Johnson could well be back in the rotation this year. Q will not be moved.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 19, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) This is a message board and it's a valid point of discussion. Odds are, the Sox will be out of the race by the time the deadline rolls around and they'll be looking to sell a few pieces that won't be on the team next year. Considering some people are already considering roster decisions based on the 2016 roster, it's never too early to start talking about potential trades. It doesn't mean people still aren't appreciating what they have going on or don't want to watch games for this season, but that it's not likely to happen this year. That said... this is wrong too because the Sox are only 2.5 out of the Wild Card even with the injuries they've suffered thus far. Given a break or two, this team could easily compete for a Wild Card spot all year. You don't just sell to sell and you don't just assume that this team has absolutely no shot. They were closer to the wild card last year at this point of the season. They are probably going to lose 90 games (hopefully no more than that) which is a step up from last year but that won't be wild card material.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 19, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) We lost a couple games in Houston but it's too early for trade talk. What if we are in the hunt for a wild card spot? Put that bottle down.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2014 -> 09:31 PM) Dunn should be proud. That's quite a feat. Surely that hasn't been done many times in baseball history. I mean at some point you take a weak swing at least on strike three. Put into perspective, I heard on the Tigers/Red Sox last night that Victor Martinez has not struck out on a called 3rd strike in over 500 ABs.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 16, 2014 -> 08:56 AM) All the rainouts have allowed them to pitch their Aces in a crazy-high % of games so far. This will change. Yeah, it'll take a lot, but not impossible. Verlander and Scherzer have 9 starts after their game last night. Quintana has 9 and Danks makes his 9th tomorrrow. If Sale was healthy he would already have 9. Their 5 less games results in one turn of the rotation .Scherzer dominated Boston last night.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 16, 2014 -> 04:00 PM) Handedness matters very little in this instance. Draft the best arm you can. Would it really be a bad thing to have two pitchers like Chris Sale in the rotation? No but if you agree Sale is the best LH in baseball, you probably are not going to get someone jthat good. With Quintana already in the rotation, I was hoping a RH stud would fall in our laps. But as i posted, we will get who ends up 3rd

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ May 16, 2014 -> 02:27 PM) Ha. After I posted about how "I hope the Sox draft Kolek" I watched video of him. Reminds me of Jonathon Broxton. Big guy with max effort motion. I cant imagine he stays healthy / away from the bullpen. Since we probably have the best LH in baseball, I was hoping we take a RH in thi spot. But the decision will probably be made for us.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ May 16, 2014 -> 08:15 AM) Yep only 120 more games to make up 10, might as well pack it in and call it a season. The Sox have 13 games left with the Tigers and the Tigers are going to be stuck either playing a lot of double headers or losing off days because of all their rainouts. There is plenty of time to make up ground. We've also been without our #1,2 and 4 starters, starting CF and lead off hitter, starting 2B, 3B and RF for significant amounts of time. Considering that our #1 and #4 starters, CF, 2B and 3B are either back or coming back soon, the Sox are in decent shape. Tigers have 7 guys on the DL. You forgot Jones for us. Injuries are very much a normal part of baseball these days. In fact Texas has 13 on their DL. My concern is Detroit is winning despite injuries. When we get guys heading to the DL, we replace them w average AA/AAA type players.

QUOTE (VAfan @ May 15, 2014 -> 09:33 PM) Who hired the new hitting coach? If it's Hahn, that has to be added to the list as a HUGE positive. However, I agree with the person who didn't like the Ventura extension. Living in Virginia, I don't get to see that many games. But in the games I've seen, as often as not I felt Ventura really blew the game management to the point of helping LOSE the game. What's amazing to me is the Hahn has put in place the position players who could compete, with the major need now the revamping of the pitching staff. Since the Sox have tended to be better at developing pitchers than position players, this is an excellent approach. C - Tyler Flowers new hitting success makes him a viable option at catcher. 1B - covered with Abreu for 6 years of his prime. 2B - a possibly rejuvenated Gordon Beckham, and several options nearly ready behind him SS - still have Ramirez, who is experiencing an offensive resurgence. One of the best SS in the game 3B - Conor Gillaspie adds a necessary LH bat, and we have a power hitting righty who is nearly ML ready LF - Dayan Viciedo may have started to figure it out offensively. CF - Eaton, IF he can stay healthy, is a fantastic sparkplug leadoff guy RF - Avisail Garcia is still very young, but has potential to round out a solid outfield DH - Adam Dunn is not as bad as most of us make him out to be. We need a lefty power bat here if Dunn is gone next year. Hahn's additions are: Abreu, Eaton, Avi, Gillaspie, and some depth. The hitting coach gets some credit for the improvement of: Ramirez, Viciedo, Flowers, Beckham, and possibly Dunn. For that, we gave up Peavy, Rios, Santiago, Reed. Konerko came back for a fraction of his prior deal. I don't think these position players can compete. The good thing is we have a few years to add morre pieces. I think the outfield has the potential to compete. They are young and I think Garcia has a world of potential. But they are very average defensively. Abreu is a stud but by the time we comete within the division, I think 2nd, 3rd and SS will all be new. Flowers is still very questionable. He had a great month but he still has more strikeouts than any catcher in baseball. I think the question remains will his average stay up( not 300+ but hopefully .275 and his strikeouts come down. He strikes out more than Dunn does.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 15, 2014 -> 03:11 PM) The only move I didn't like at the time was the Peavy deal, as I've long thought Avisail overrated before we acquired him. I'm still not a big Avi fan, but I do believe it was the best deal that was on the table, and I think moving Peavy then was the right thing to do. Time will tell if it was the best deal. The White Sox could have had Iglesias(+) but Hahn wanted an outfielder. If the Sox did that trade then they could have swapped Alexei over the winter. I do like Avi but I saw a lot of Iglesias and he will be a gold glove SS for years to come. Not sure who else Boston would have included or if it would be the same guys ithey threw in the eventual trade. Ironic both Iglesias and Avi are out for the season.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2014 -> 07:53 PM) Tell me the team that has had as many as the White Sox. Rangers have 13 guys on the DL. Also check Tigers, Dodgers, Yankees to name a few.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2014 -> 03:04 PM) If Ventura wants to manage this team, he will be, unless the team takes a major step backwards when it shouldn't. If he was going to be fired, he would have been last year, and not given an extension. The fact that this is about a .500 team with all of the injury problems this year will go a long way towards securing that. Last year's team was 500 in May also. Look around baseball and you will see every team has injuries. Ther Red Sox won a world Series last year with multiple injuries throughout the season. Unfortunately for the White Sox, the weak minor league system makes it difficult to find suitable replacements when a player goes down.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 08:36 AM) Why didn't the White Sox try to have a giveaway? I'm guessing they probably have fewer giveaway days because of the difficulties finding sponsorships and commitments (for 3 years) at the levels they want. 20. Toronto 21. Pittsburgh 22. Seattle 23. Oakland 28. Tampa Bay More than those teams, it's telling that Miami and Houston are significantly outdrawing the Sox. With how entertaining this White Sox team has been, compared to the Lastros, it's just kind of hard to believe. And Miami is one of the most expensive parks now, according to Fan Price Index/Team Marketing Report. Of course, the Mariners brought in Cano, but surely their fans shouldn't have been realistically expecting them to compete with the Rangers, Angels and A's this season. In fact, had the White Sox made the same move, 95% of this site would have been rebelling against it....at those years and dollars. As I have posted before, the White Sox major problem is they don't sell enough coprorate season tickets. I don't mean coprorate boxes which the major companies buy, but blocks of grandstand seats usually 4+. The companies then give them out to customers employees etc. I bet teams like Boston, New York, LA etc have 15-20, 000 seats sold to businesses.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:11 PM) Same old Addison never 1-2-3. He got lucky tonight. Reed is not Rivera but he continues to get saves. Yet he has been pitching on bad teams for several years. I bet Arizona trades him at the deadline to a good team that needs a closer and walks away with a top prospect.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 10:12 AM) But, if they're 5-10 games over .500 come the end of July, selling really will not be an option. The offense has been great but they still are on a course to finish 5-10 games under .500. After last season, that would be a solid improvement. If Sale returns but the offense goes south then we are probably looking at 10-15 under and that would be disappointing.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 25, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) 1. It's not difficult to be an adequate closer if you're an adequate relief pitcher. 2. Nate throws 95+. Balta; What do you consider adequate???? The original poster said Jones should be able to match Reed's 40 last year. Also you totally leave out the mental part. Not every reliever can be a closer. Matt Thornton, albeit a lefty, an adequate reliever struggled in that role.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 24, 2014 -> 10:41 PM) Reed was 6th in baseball in save opportunities and finished 7th in saves, also 2nd in blown saves. How is that irreplaceable? If Jones were to receive 48 Save opportunities just like Reed did, how many saves does he get? I would imagine 40. Well in his career Jones has never had a save. He has had 8 blown saves in his career. But you think in 48 chances he gets 40???? I'll stick w 20 at best.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 24, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) The way Jones finished last year, he was a reasonable option as a placeholder, at least, and possibly better. He just hasn't been healthy, but it's still early. Possibly better???? Reed had 40 saves last year on one of the worst teams in basball. Those 40 saves ranked him 7th overall in saves. You are dreaming if you expected Jones to be better. Jones , healthy might get 20 saves. I have no problem with the trade since the Sox needed to rebuild, but Reed will be very difficult to replace.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 24, 2014 -> 06:07 PM) Your exactly right. Sad the way we have such disrespect for Sox players This is a business. The White Sox are going to want something in return for Beckham so unless Semien plays 3rd or SS he goes back to AAA and plays 2nd. Since this is a rebuilding year, playing Beckham to hopefully get something in July should be the goal. In July, you trade him or dump him. After the trading deadline, you bring up Semien and let him play out the year.