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Tony: I have been following baseball and the White Sox for over 50 years. But when I read Francona's book, I was amazed ( or maybe naive) at how involved the Boston Front Office was in the day to day lineup and bullpen decisions. Never mind ownership even weighing in on player decisions that were made. I see it as Francona being old school and he probably uses what info he likes but still wants to have control. On the other side we have a Kevin Cash who is very much a stat/video guru. End of the day, both have had success with their approach.

Ptatc:You lost me. The question is how involved is the Front Office in making player lineup decisions. Hands on or hands off as far as RR is concerned. Francona won a couple of World Series yet he said Boston and Cleveland were involved and he was second guessed by the owner( Boston) on occasion.

Obviously we see a lot of posts debating line-up decisions under RR. I posed the question yesterday but no one answered my query. Most if not all teams have stat geeks in the front office. I have read or heard that Francona ( see below), Kevin Cash( Tampa Tribune article) and Aaron Boone( Sunday Night Baseball) to name a few all consult data for games before making out their lineup. We also hear during broadcasts that bullpen decisions are often made via data on match-ups and pinch hitters, I wonder if anyone w first hand knowledge knows if the White Sox have a very involved or hands off Front Office regarding stats https://www.morningjournal.com/news/terry-franconas-book-offers-an-interesting-inside-look-ingraham-column/article_dba3a8fa-091d-5904-82f2-24afbfd90d75.html "Like many organizations now, the Indians included, the Red Sox are heavily into advanced metrics for evaluating players. Francona went along with the program, but only so far. "There is more that goes into lineups than numbers," he said. "There's personalities and egos. You're trying to instill some confidence. That's why you have managers. That's what I would tell John Henry (who was famous for sending Francona late-night emails questioning or suggesting strategy that either ignored or failed to act on what the numbers said). I'd say, 'John, we all know what the numbers are. So you could do this."

Agree

Start as a batboy and work your way up.

In the stat age, I would assume every team has a stat guru in the front office. Terry Franacona's book detailed how managers are provided with individual game stats before every game so the manager knows things like this righty hits this righty better than this lefty does. Either Hahn doesn't utilize individual game scouting or RR is making all the decisions.

Were the Sox more prepared yesterday than they were Saturday?

He looked like a stud until his back tightened. It was a long sit in the 4th inning w all the fireworks

True but RR is a bandaid and the organization probably needs surgery. Changing the coaching staff as well as RR might have an impact.

It is very rare to clear out an entire organization. I could see one of RR or Hahn or Kenny go after this season if it turns sour again. Odds probably in that order due to loyalty

Last year Anderson turned into very good hitter. That was his 4th year at age 26. Eloy is in his 2nd year at 23. I think he will need a couple of more years before we can see how he develops.

More than half of NBA teams make the playoffs.

Maybe not a great comparison. Rick Carlisle won the NBA Championship in 2011.Since then his teams have either been eliminated in 1st round or missed the playoffs totally. Cuban has been very faithful to Carlisle despite their lack of success in the playoffs since. George Steinbrenner would be a better example of a quick trigger finger.

New cardboard fans please

Jack: A straight platoon of Collins and EE reduces at bats for Grandal/McCann. Not sure that improves the offense.

Supposedly Tampa/St Pete before the Rays would eventually land there.

I would flip Eloy and Grandal just to break the right-handed hitters 3-5.

Agree but it means Grandal and EE will sit more and Collins will get splinters.

Excellent assessment.

Gio has it going

Last 15 games , Robert is hitting .286 w 21 S.O. and Moncada is hitting .274 w 19 S.O. I would say their struggles are pretty even. I would not say it is poor effort. In their case, both are young players who are going through a bad stretch.

Robert has also been fine considering it is his first moth. Leury is a career( 7 years) .257 hitter batting .271. I think Eloy, Grandal and EE have provided limited offensive support and TA has been hurt.

I think the issue is the offense is struggling so McCann needs to play with the bat he has been showing. That pushes Grandal to DH so Collin's chances may be limited.

Hope they wore masks

Hopefully it gets called rather than starts and then gets cancelled before 5. We cannot waste a Keuchel start with our SP struggles.