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Couldn't the agent also be a possibility?

Ozuna has experience as a RF but most of it was his 1st year(2013) in Majors. He has only played 65 games there and 36 were in 2013. Since then he has very limited appearances,

What is the estimates on a Ryu contract? He is a Boras guy which usually means wait the market out. But this year seems to be take the best early offer. If Wheeler got $ 18 does Ryu get maybe $16 for 3 yrs ( -for age+ for LH)?

Agree but Anderson, Moncada and Eloy have shown to be solid additions and we shall see w Vaughn, Robert and Madrigal. If we get 5 or 6 that is pretty good production even if a couple got partial development elsewhere.

But guys like Dunning, Foster, Flores and Lambert were all added to 40 man so they must "excite" the FO some.

He or MadBum may make the most sense since we really need a LH starter especially w Rodon still out for a while.

It seems that way but players emerge. Some players in Class A this year will jump out in AA next year.

That is what Rays aside meant. You missed the whole concept.

Guess it is a negative w existing players as well. Blake Snell sounds off https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/12/06/he-said-what-live-stream-captures-rays-ace-blake-snells-exasperated-reaction-to-tommy-pham-trade/23875323/

They are looking for aback-up catcher. Vazquez played 130 games this year. I would assume they also want a LH since they dumped Leon who was LH.

Rays aside because I am not sure they will draw under any situation. , I wonder how good that is for fan support. Fans love winners but they also love their favorite players. A turnstile roster may frustrate the fan base.

Exactly. Bad gambles are just part of their roster structure.

But this is not new. Panda in Boston, Ellsbury in New York, Barry Zito in SF, and Ryan Howard in Philly to name a few. Many teams just move on to the next target especially the big spenders.

Just a numbers thing. It would be interesting if we hear more about the overall process. To me, $118Mil seems like an odd number especially if the White Sox offered $125. It almost seems like the $118 was topping a $115 offer from someone. Maybe Sox were at $100, someone else was at 115 and Phils went to $118. Sox then went to $125? Maybe I am way off, but I would have thought $120 would have been the counter if Phils knew he was hoping to go to Philly. Maybe everybody offered $100 and the $18 and $25 are all incentives added.

If you don't like a poster, don't read his posts. Totally trashing him is very childish.

Not for $5 Mil. I disagree. When you are signing a $100 Mil contract, 5Mil is not a major chunk. Tax rates are different in each state. So are cost of living expenses. So is where their family lives. If you are talking $15+ Million difference , I would agree the money decides. But not $1 mil per year, I think other factors like AL/NL, playoff potential, manager/pitching coach, roster etc can all be factors if the two offers are pretty close.

Agree. I am saying if he is weighing pretty comparable AL vs NL deals.

I wonder if a guy like Wheeler would prefer to stay in NL because of no DH and being familiar w the hitters or would he prefer the AL because the hitters would not be as familiar w his stuff.

We do now. Thanks

Agree, that to me is a serious over-pay. But he is only 30, healthy and always gives a team 30+ starts. It may be that the pitching pricing is really high this year. Angels must be banking on a rejuvenation away from Fenway.

I agree but then find it strange they couldn't move him in a trade. Maybe the 410 Mil + a prospect was the turn-off.

I doubt it. Think Marketing 101. An organization looking for all the media spotlight they can get would not combine 2 events in one. Lawyers are probably still crossing t's and dotting i's.

Has Nova "left the building" or is he still a candidate for the 2nd SP? I assume the best option for the 2nd SP would be a LH.

I would agree that the Red Sox will want Cease + for Betts. As I said previously, they won't want Vaughn based on their existing prospects nor Madrigal bases on the fact they promoted last year's top prospect who plays 2nd. I say pass on Betts but maybe Vaughn or Madrigal for a stud AA/AAA OF prospect would be worth exploring. That is assuming Hahn does not see what he wants in FA.

Boston will not want Vaughn. Their top two positional prospects are both IB, one in AAA and the other one in A. My guess if they trade him, will be for starting pitching.