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This guy would make a lot of sense if our scouts think he can play both 3B and 2B. A RH hitter with some pop who can platoon at both 2b and 3b would be ideal for our team right now. 3/15M is nothing compared to what some of these mediocre MLB vets are getting.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 09:56 AM) After the free agent market settles, and Marlon Byrd gets traded, the Sox will find Viciedo a new home. Without a doubt. There's always some team willing to take a chance on power potential. We won't get much, but someone will give us something for him. Hell, how many shots did Willy Mo Pena get?

Tough to say....but I think between 83-88 wins is pretty safe. Can't forget the trade dealine as well...you have to imagine with as much invested in this team already there is going to be an addition if necessary.

If you can't support a team with 3 or 4 former PED users then you should probably pick a different sport to watch all together....and make sure it's not football either.

Name me 2 AL teams that you can say without a doubt are better than the Sox right now....I'll wait.

Wow is all I can say. This team has a real shot at doing something special the next few years.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 09:56 PM) I've been looking at Ethier -- was he injured last year or something because his batted ball data is a mess. 51% GBs and 5.6% HR per FB on the odd chance he didn't kill a worm? He just screams "old" IMO. Only .7 fWAR last year and his wRC+ sunk to just 98. He's basically a good player that is now old. Will he bounce back into an average player? I have no idea but Melky costs only money. If the Dodgers want to trade him for a bag of balls and include cash then OK, let's deal, but paying anything of actual value (aka any prospect in the top 20) seems a huge overpay. His contract is f***ing awful. Through '17 at an AAV of 17 million with a vesting option for '18 if he hits 550 PA. No, f*** it, god no. Not unless the Dodgers sent over 40 million, and usually the commish doesn't look too kindly on those deals. I think you're over looking what its like for a veteran to go from an every day player to role player....especially a guy coming off of a pretty decent season. A lot of guys struggle when their routine is broken like that. I'm not saying he would be great or anything, but I think he could give us a very productive 500 PA's with most coming against righties. Probably something like .265/.330/.410 with 15 HR's. And no, I don't think it would take any of our top 20 prospects to get him. IF we do trade for him its either going to be Danks for Ethier + a little bit of $ or no body prospects for Ethier + a lot of $.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) Boston has to remove either Victorino or Nava or Craig - Holt is too versatile. Ethier wants out of L.A. Dodgers want to move either Ethier or Crawford's contract. Rasmus is supposedly asking for 11M - do not think anyone will come close to offering him that. We need one very good defensive outfielder, who can spell Eaton. We also need someone who can give us more offensive production than Tank. Perhaps the answer is either a) Aoki and Nava: or b) Rasmus and Nava. In either case, I like Nava because of his versatility. I agree with you on Nava. He is a very good fit for us and shouldn't be too hard to get. I honesty wouldn't even hate Nava and Bonifacio as a super sub off of the bench. Getting a versatile option like Bonifacio could also make it more palatable to keep Tank if we can't get anything for him. Having Nava, Tank, and Bonifacio to choose from for LF wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 12:28 AM) Not ideal but seems more and more likely. I think there are plenty of viable options for the OF still left to say that a Tank/Ichiro platoon is likely. Free Agents- Melky, Rasmus, Aoki Dodgers- Either, Crawford, Van Slyke Phillies- Marlon Byrd Rockies- Blackmon, Cargo Boston- Victorino, Nava, Holt Pirates- Travis Snider And I'm probably missing at least a few

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 09:18 PM) With our current bench situation, and with Hahn acquiring a LFer (FA or trade ) , am I crazy for thinking that if no one offers anything that can help this team, for viciedo, that were better off keeping him as a back up OFer/dh? Just tough to do because of how much of liability he is defensively. You really can't even count him as a 4th OF. You would also have to acquire a LF that can play CF well if Eaton misses time. If we literally can't get anything I would keep him rather than DFA him, but I think it's better for both our team and Viciedo to part ways at this point. Hopefully some team gets desperate for a power source and gives a bull pen arm for Viciedo.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 08:54 PM) Victorino and eaton are sure bets to get hurt next year wether it's a 15 day dl stints or day to days etc they just can't play a whole season. Then what happens? Especially if it's at the same time. Some combination of danks,Leaury, campana, viciedo? It's a fair question, can't say I have the answer either. Would probably require us to carry a better 4th OF that isn't currently on our roster. I personally would actually prefer a trade for Daniel Nava. Probably would take only a slightly better package to get him and he's cheaper and under control for 3 years.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 08:26 PM) Agree - no way Victorino nets a QO Sox should be willing to get/sell him for his contract and a C prospect. And that's all it should take if we aren't asking for any $ back. Give them Mike Recchia and Jason Coats or something like that and I'm sure they would jump at it to rid themselves of the contract. The whole question with Victorino is how his medicals look. 34 year olds with bad backs are scary. But if our doctors feel ok with his back I would have no problem with him in LF for 1 year. Who cares about the $13M? That's JR's problem and it wouldn't affect the team what so ever for the future.

The great thing about the MLB playoffs.....all you have to do is make it. And with our front 3 starters we have as good of shot as anyone in a 7 game series. We for sure need to add minimum 1 more at least above average bat, but I don't think there is any team in the AL that is head and shoulders better than us currently. Not to mention that steamer projections team WAR is a pretty ridiculous measure to use. I get his overall point, but its still a pretty big reach for the basis of an article. Must not have much to write about.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) Sox have been quiet for a while. Wonder if Hahn is working on something or waiting to see what happens today. Yeah its been a whole 48 hrs...what is Hahn asleep at the wheel?!?!?! On a serious note, I think the Dodgers and Red Sox still line up best if Hahn plans to make another trade. If we can get 1 of Crawford, Eithier, Victorino, or Nava for a reasonable $ amount while giving up very little talent its a big win for us. Those guys have no spot on their current teams and all would be a big upgrade in LF for us, just have to figure how to make the $ work with the Dodgers or wait for the Red Sox to dump their guys for nothing.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 10:05 PM) Yep, the LA / Phillies trade is what I was wondering about. If the Sox are looking for athleticism/speed then Revere would be a nice grab, if he's even available. Would you really even want Revere? Sub .700 OPS and despite his speed he's actually pretty bad in the field. Constantly takes horrible angles and has no arm. I'm not saying he'd be horrible, but I hope Hahn is aiming higher than Revere if he's trading for a LF.

I'm trying to some how convince myself that the Dodgers trading Haren increases the odds of them taking on Danks....not sure it actually makes any sense though.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 05:46 PM) The poster above me didn't know it... ? Which part of my post made you think that? I even stated the specific $ amount we would have to pay if we didn't keep the player.

Rollins for Lee is what Jason Stark said. Good move for both sides

We absolutely should take someone. Worst case scenario is that it's a $25,000 loss....I mean will anybody really care if we have to drop Raul Fernandez off of the 40 man roster to create space? http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/nota...e-rule-5-draft/ I would either go the KW route and grab a guy that throws 100 and see what happens or Ryan Rouke from the Twins makes sense for a really cheap 2nd lefty in the pen. Taken from the above article.... "O’Rourke’s overall numbers say stay away: 2-4, 4.02 with Double-A New Britain with 51 strikeouts and 16 walks in 40 innings. But O’Rourke was awesome against lefthanded hitters (.105/.159/.123 with 42 strikeouts among the 74 lefthanded hitters he faced) and awful against righthanded hitters (.326/.398/.573). Those numbers aren’t a one-year fluke. O’Rourke struck out 53 of the 137 lefthanded hitters he faced the previous two seasons and held them to a sub .450 OPS. He does it with a below-average fastball (87-90 mph) and a slurvy breaking ball that he can tighten up or slow down to vary the size, speed and break. It’s easy meat for a righthanded hitter, but it’s a baffling assortment for lefties."

Ryan Vogelsong really isn't a bad option I don't think. We could probably get him on a relatively cheap 1 year deal with an option or something like that. Take out the bad/injury riddled 2013 and between '11, '12 and '14 he's averaged 185 IP and an ERA of around 3.75 (advanced metrics back it up too). 2 weeks ago I would have been against a move like this, but if we really are going all out for this year Vogelsong would bring a lot of stability to the back of the rotation. Of course Danks really clutters things up financially though and getting rid of at least a decent chunk of his salary could open up a lot of options. Take away Danks and our rotation is really cheap relative to other teams that will be competitive in 2014.

I'd definitely want Volquez @ 2/20.....If Danks could somehow be moved 1st. We can't have $25M invested into our #4 and #5 starters, just doesn't make sense given the other holes we still have left to fill

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:44 AM) And Ackley is way better than Lillibridge. Ok how about Gordon Beckham 2.0? That work better for you? Either way he's a bench player and the fact that anybody is discussing him as a starting LF for the White Sox is absolutely ridiculous.

Dustin Ackley is Brent Lillibridge 2.0...no thanks unless he's a 4th OF'er. Tank for Carson Smith would be a pretty good deal for us but not sure if that would be asking for too much

I think Sanchez gets a little underrated. Not saying he's going to be great or anything but I can see him hitting something like .270/.330/.380, which will be fine if he plays a + 2B.

Is Gordon incapable of playing SS or do the Dodgers just not like him? Seems like he would be obvious to step right in for Hanley.