TheTruth05

Guys I have a WR2 Logjam but with crappy receivers. My #1 is Dez who last week has left me doubting his ability to put up #1 numbers if Prescott is starting. But my #2 is a tossup between a banged up Sanu,a banged up Wheaton, Tajae Sharp, Eli Rodgers, and Michael Thomas. Any help here?

Great read, very solemn tone though.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) You need to reverse. I have baldwin. It's .5 ppr, I still think eventually Bryant will start getting those "every third down throws" he used to get. But bird in the hand, you know. You're right, totally caught that after I responded my bad lol. I don't think him and Prescott will be in sync as much as they say but once Tony is back he will be a WR1 no doubt, that's if Romo stays healthy. He's been beat up for 1.5 years now.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Friend is giving up on Dez Bryant. Offering him for Baldwin plus i get keenan allen in a keeper league. Thoughts? DO IT! seriously though, Wilson to Baldwin has been hot since late last year and Bryant doesn't seem to have much going with Prescott so I would do it. It's tought because I'm shopping Bryant myself but what about when Romo comes back.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Fulmer+ a couple other solid pieces with virtually no money coming back to Chicago is the kind of return that might make them interested. They'd be getting a good return out of moving him and would not be picking up money on their side. Less than that and there's no good reason for them to make that deal. The last years will be ugly in total value yes, but stop and ask this - what will $25 million look like in 5 years with continued revenue growth? The average salary has gone up 25% in the last 5 years, and that's with the fraction of revenue going to the owners still going up. A $15 million contract for a guy at the end of his career today hurts your franchise some, but it's not murder any more. With revenue growth, a $25 million deal then will probably look like a $15 million deal today. They can deal with that if they have to - so if your org wants him, you're going to have to give the Reds a good reason to give him up. You're absolutely right about the continued growth, it will be pennies for a face of the franchise in another 5 years. But I also ask, is Cincy banking on him retiring before the end of the contract? I know none of us would have been okay with Paulie making $25 mil in his last year as a backup 1b which I think Votto will turn into when he gets to those final years. As for the bolded, I also agree. These contracts aren't absolute killers anymore because MLB is getting more and more money for revenue, but that's all in the future and Hahn needs to sell Cincy on the reality of now.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 10:57 AM) I'm generally unimpressed by the way Cinci runs their organization so they could do unexpectedly poor things, but I don't look at their roster and see them desperate to move Votto. They've moved everyone else from their roster already who is expensive and not Homer Bailey. They're at well under $100 million committed for the foreseeable future every year, and Philips's deal expires after next season. So let's say the Reds moved Votto, what would they be able to spend FA money on that is more valuable than him? They could go out and spend $25 million on a Cespedes, but Votto has outproduced him each of the last 2 years both in total offense and in fWAR terms. Plus, assuming no big changes from the CBA, in signing someone for that money they'd have to give up a draft pick themselves. On the other hand, as they've pretty much moved all their veterans, Votto is the one constant organizational presence and even I'll say that when you're rebuilding it can be useful to have a guy or two who have been there forever, just to help the newbies get more comfortable. Bonus points if he's putting up a .950+ OPS every year. So yes he's highly paid and under contract for longer than you'd want, but I don't see major pressure on the Reds to dump him. They're in fine shape payrollwise, and they're not going to get better production by spending the money on him elsewhere. So if you want Votto, you're going to have to put up a good offer - talent and taking on the money, to make it worth it to them. I could certainly see them trying to move Bailey next season if he's recovered enough to get off to a good start in the first half after TJS, that would remove some risk and probably bring back a good return. Move him, and their payroll is under $80 million. I do agree with you that they have really no rush/incentive to move Votto but the last years of that contract will be ugly. Votto will 37-40 being paid $25 mill and probably a shell of himself for a team that would probably barely start to be competitive. Sox want to maximize their window now, even if they get 3-4 good years out of Votto (which is the exact window for Sale,Q,Abreu) then the trade is a win for both. If Cincy looks at the state of their team (the worst pitching staff this year in MLB) and the Sox dangle Fulmer+ to Cincy I don't see why they might not bite. Like you said, Cincy FO is prone to do some pretty weird things so maybe Hahn can make them bite.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) Jake Peter may come up next year and be a solid utility type as well. Which is great, we need to start seeing some of these kids graduate even if they are super sub quality like Peters/Alvarez. Saves us from the Bonifacio/Beckham type signings.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) No need to play that game. Lets just admire this 3 position, great base running, great defense, super sub we've developed. +1

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 10:06 AM) Cincy is going to have to eat money if they want to get anything back for Votto. Which is why I think it's possible if Cincy eats some money and Sox send Fulmer+. We all talk about them wanting to pick a direction, if they don't sell like we all think they will and decided they wanna go all in, Votto would fit exactly what the Sox lack in the lineup.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 07:02 AM) It would take a lot more than Fulmer to pry Votto loose...don't see an attractive enough package coming from the Sox side of things. 3 months ago, sure, but Votto's value has been restored fully again. He's going to be 33 next year with $192 mil owed until 2024, I don't see many teams wanting to trade for that unless it's the Yankees (rebuild of sorts), Boston (set with the young bats) Cubs (Rizzo is there and almost as good). The Dodgers might be the only competitor given Gonzalez is getting up there in age as well. I could see the Sox be savvy and include a 3rd team maybe. Although if they will go all in they're gonna have to trade from the little they do have.

Don't burn me at the stake here but if the Sox decide to go for it one more time how many people would be for going all in and trading for Votto? He has a mean slash line since the All Star break and plays a really good 1B, would supplant Abreu there and give u a middle of the order LH Bat. That coupled with a Tilson/Gomez wouldn't be bad. Eaton RF Anderson SS Abreu DH Votto 1B Melky LF Frazier 3B Gomez CF Avila/Narvaez C Saladino 2B That coupled with a 5th starter signing/acquisition really gives us a solid squad IMO.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 12:27 AM) All that being said, I'm sure Porcello will win. Boston, 20+ wins, nice ERA. I'm not directing this to anyone in specific but if Porcello wins then why should we care is Sale or Q ever win 1? It's basically the same as the gold glove and doesn't really reflect anything in today's baseball. I'll start caring about these awards when we start seeing advanced stats truly have significance of picking the winner of these things.

He should be playing everyday next season. This kid just has a good baseball IQ and has done what has been asked of him every time he is put in the lineup. I don't care about Lawrie who's gone after 2017 and probably won't even be healthy enough to use as a trade chip next season either.

So with the Rams defense getting pounded yesterday, I literally lost by 10 points that Dez could have gotten me with a mediocre game. Gotta love week 1.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) I'm losing by 9 with the Rams DST to go. I can't believe I might overcome Dez Bryant giving me less than one point. Andrew Luck saved my ass. That Rams game seems like a trap game. Everyone expects the Rams D to shut SF down but man it's kinda giving me the trap game feel. QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) It could be worse I had Tyrod Taylor. Getting 5 points from your quarterback is a lot harder to overcome. Taylor is so hit and miss that I didn't keep him this season; although when he's on, he's a top 5 fantasy QB.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) Fox knows personnel way more than Lovie and hires a better staff though. Fox can evaluate talent and Lovie is really bad at it. This. Even though their in-game adjustments are probably equally conservative if not sometimes frustrating, Fox is a much better talent evaluator at both staff and player levels.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) I'm gonna lose because Dez Bryant can't hold onto anything. He and AP were absolutely worthless today. I'm losing by 30 and I wouldn't be if Dez hadn't played like a bum and Keenan Allen didn't have the worst luck.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Sep 10, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) 2B was never the issue. Saladino and Lawrie are pretty much interchangeable. Neither will get us major league ready talent to fill other holes if traded unless packaged with someone like Fulmer + What you said is correct but I never said 2B was an issue,just said I think we found our 2B for the near future. Lawrie isn't going to net much or help us either being out 1/3 of the season like he is every year.

Anybody here who wants to rebuild by trading our only good players (Sale,Q,Eaton,Abreu) is crazy. This front office will surely either A.completely botch the trades B.get very underwhelming returns due to high price tags. The last thing I want this FO doing is deciding the franchise future for the next decade.

I'm all in on Saladino at 2B next season. He's just a smart,sound MLB player and the Sox shouldn't waste him letting him rot on the bench as utility next year.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 10, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Thank you sir. I thought the same on both. No prob, I'm in a bind myself since Wheaton either won't play or will barely play since he's not 100% which means my flex options are Woodhead,Sanu,Riddick. I'm leaning towards Riddick now since Indy defense isn't as good as KC's. Any thoughts guys?

Bennett is a solid play over those other options. 2 tough defenses against the run but I think I would roll the dice with Gordon.

A positive thread is a good thread.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 9, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) They're going to show a replay on NHL network around 11:30 CT if anyone is interested. Damn I wish I had seen this earlier,I forgot to DVR it and I was at the Sox game.