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Torn? No. Shattered? Easily. Here's hoping.

Headed to xray. Unable to put any pressure on the leg. Not looking good.

RIP Sox

Kopech vs. Senzel 0-3 1 K

Yea its not like they gave up Chris Sale for him or anything...

Kopech rung up Senzel. edit- important to note that he struck him out on 3 straight fastball that Senzel had no prayer on.

Micker got HBP and worked his way around the bases on wild pitches to score during Sheets AB.

I think its just a case of one buyer, the Cubs, deciding they were going to go all out to maximize their window while everyone else remained kind of gun-shy when it came to dealing their best prospects. Once the Cubs were willing to part with Jimenez it became a matter of which team had the best asset to give up, and it just so happened that the White Sox had that asset. That said, I'd rather have Kaprielian and Fowler (injuries be damned!) than Cease, Rose and Flete. Oakland did very well for themselves in getting a quantity of players.

Injury risk is a major, major factor. Handedness matters too. Gray is to Quintana as Quintana is to Sale. Similar in ways, but ultimately you know which player you'd rather have.

There is just no way Gray was going to attract a prospect like Jimenez. Its a minor miracle Quintana fetched someone that good. Really, with the injury to Torres (dont tell me TJ doesn't matter for hitter, anything that puts a player out for the year worries me at least a little bit) the Yankees were not going to be able to match the Cubs' headliner. Aside from Moncada and maybe Devers I'm not sure there's a player who was in the minors at the time of the Q trade I'd want more than Jimenez.

Gray is not on the level of Quintana, and I have never really been enamored with Quintana. Gray has injury risks, less control, is not as good of a pitcher, not a lefty...he's a clear step down. So comparing the two deals is kind of a fool's errand. Oakland has given themselves a very intriguing SS prospect who's stock is back on the rise as the centerpiece and two injured-but-talented players that, if they make full recoveries, present a ton of potential. Its a nice trade for Oakland.

Beane trying to buy low on injured players. Mateo is a nice centerpiece, though. Yankees system has taken a pretty major hit.

Gonzalez would just be 50 innings of wear they don't want to give to another pitcher they care about.

I have no problem with the patient approach or rebuilding from scratch the way they are. I just think the goal should gradually shift starting this offseason from intentionally losing and sabotaging the ML squad at every turn to a more win now mindset. Not overnight, not over the course of one season, and not at the expense of the talent they've acquired already. I cant make that clear enough. No trading Eloy Jimenez for a rental, that is not what I want to do. I just think after they lock in the high draft pick this year they should start looking at trying to compete sooner rather than later, and its better for them long-term if they finish around .500 next year than if they lose 100 games in 2018. As of the conclusion of this season it will be more important for the young players they have now to be successful together at the major league level than it will be to keep stockpiling minor leaguers. Moustakas is the guy I'd really like to sign, but really only if he were to take a 4 year deal (and we wont know how feasible that is until the offseason). He just makes too much sense, and the Sox may be able to score him cheap while everyone else has their eyes ahead to the next year. Harper and Machado will not be going to the White Sox, anyone holding out hope for that is out of their minds.

Giolito just gave up a HR

Eloy is just demolishing.

If young players are doing well in the majors the team will win games. The transition year is a myth.

No it's a great return. A lot more than I thought we'd get. It's just the system is officially loaded and it's hard for new arrivals to displace a lot of the guys already around.

Barely org top 30, if at all.

Live arms. Nice return.

He will use his inferior competition as a crutch and when faced with real adversity down the road will be less prepared to deal with it. Easy answer, really. Jimenez isn't Tim Anderson, he's probably a 100 OPS+ MLB hitter right now. Letting him rot in Winston-Salem because the Sox are gunshy after over promoting a bunch of B grade prospects is the wrong idea. It's not "sensible".

Yea that 2015 team was absolutely dreadful and they still won 76 games. Next year's Sox team can easily be better than them by accident. Trayce Thompson was 3rd on that team in WAR among position players. THIRD! I know WAR is not a perfect stat but that is nuts. That team would've killed to have one player on the farm who was even on Nicky Delmonico's level, and this Sox system now has a whole bunch of guys like that. They may not be able to find starpower like Chris Sale, but they should be able to field a more well rounded club than that trainwreck.

If you aren't at least a little worried about him you're lying to yourself.

Take a look at this year's Twins. Same division as the Sox and they are one game under .500, are you really telling me the Sox can't do better than that next year?

They came into this season with trash and spun it into gold. I wouldn't worry too much about the pen. They'll find some guys this second half they like.