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Thanks. I respect that POV, but I think in a mediocre system where they probably shanked their top pick a year ago, I would rather have a high ceiling position player like Konnor Griffin than Brecht. Guys with control this bad rarely seem to fix it, but we shall see.

Elias is not a good trade partner for us. I never believed the O’s would give up meaningful prospects. Houston never did. They got Cole and Verlander for volume not quality. Much more likely the Sox trade them Soroka at the deadline than Cease.

With 1-5? Too rich for me. I am postion player only at 1-5 then get pitching with at least 2 of their 3 other high picks. But even if I wanted pitching there, Brecht's risk profile is way too high for me their. Forget reliever risk, with that may walks, there's actual bust risk.

Yeah, it was rough. I watched several of his starts. At times the stuff would be there and he'd throw strikes. Then his ability to repeat his delivery would disappear, then he'd make an adjustment to throw strikes, but he'd be grooving it. Long way of saying he was a mess, but there were flashes. What did Poles say? "Scout the flashes."

Not sure Rick Hahn deserves to be Curly. I think Grifol was hired by Shemp.

I actually think Holliday will be their 2b by Memorial Day, but I guess Wesburg can play 3b. Henderson being able to play ss makes them a better team long-term. He'd be GG at 3b, but I bet he pushes Holliday, not the other way around.

Year zero of a rebuild and half the team is 35 year olds. I do not understand their plan.

Huh, so is everything after the draft sort of extended instructs?

One year of Pedro is not my definition of luck.

I predict a breakout in that Santos will do what he did last year for a team that the national media knows exists.

I know he's a pain in the butt, however Ozzie >>>>>>>> Pedro.

I would love to see someone start ranking on process rather than actual prospects. I like the Sox top 5 in some order -- Montgomery, Schultz, Quero, Ramos, Nastrini -- but the ceiling and probability both drop off a cliff after that. I'd start to feel more comfortable if Mike Shirley is given a free hand to grab high-ceiling high school guys in the early rounds (I'm hopeful) and the Sox change their LatAm strategy to start pulling in the younger, higher-priced teens. Right now, the improvements in their system seem like a mirage based on one great late first-rounder and trades. I'd just like to see the Sox develop an actual pipeline where every year they're adding multiple future major leaguers instead of 2nd rounders who end up as org players and international signing like Yolbert Sanchez.

Love Fegan. Finally became a Patreon over there to support him. Gonna be a bad team, but at least we'll know all about it.

Here’s my hope for this trade: Bannister came in and looked at the Sox pitching inventory and Getz got rid of two guys he didn’t like that much. If their veal on Mena is that he’s gonna be a 2 or a 3, this is a terrible trade. But if they think he’s a 5/up and down guy, then I can see why they did it. At this time, I want to trust them.

I never took Baltimore seriously and this is further proof. If you gave me Baltimore's Top 15 prospects and said, "Name the 2 you don't want," it would have been Ortiz and Hall for me. Elias is clearly getting rid of players who would never have played for the O's. The fact that the Brewers are going to use Ortiz as a glove-first 3b tells me this is all about a small market team looking to get pre-arb years. The Sox should have a higher standard than that.

Thanks for this. Good framework. I am hopeful that Oppor and LaCombe pitch full season ball at some point in 2024. Given their experience level, I could imagine them each starting in extended to manage innings. If Keener starts at Kanny, I'd be shocked if he stays long. His slider is going to devastate A ball hitters. In some ways, you won't know what you have with him until AA. Last year, the Sox effectively managed innings load by having 6/7 starters at the lower levels with a lot of guys getting 4+ inning as bulk guys in relief. I bet we see more of that. I also think Aldrin Batista will be a fast riser. Not sure about the ceiling, but he was too good for A ball hitters from what I saw.

I could see that. Sosa looked considerably better in September last year, but if they continue to not walk at the rate they showed last year, hard to see either competing at the mlb level. Look at the pitching staff though. Drohan faces long odds making the team, then I can imagine any of Banks, Foster, Lambert, Deivi Garcia, Peralta, Scholtens, Speas, or Toussaint failing to make the team and getting the DFA. Lotta people who are far from untouchable on this roster.

Well, sure, but maybe he’s done. If he doesn’t earn a spot, release him. They have other guys, especially in the pitching staff where, if they don’t look good, you release them. I think Gavin Sheets has moved firmly on the bubble for the 40 man. If they determine that DeLoach and Fletcher are better, dump Sheets. The point of a roster churn is to Marie Kondo the whole thing. If a player does not bring you joy, discard him. That way, you end up with the best version of your 40 man.

One thing I like about these two trades, when taken together, is that Getz is trying to create competition in Spring Training and into the early part of the year. They have such little talent and such poor depth that setting up some roster churn and giving opportunities to players like Fletcher, DeLoach, and Shewmake might yield one cromulent regular somewhere on the field.

I don't think they're gonna need the $1 mil to up who they can get at 5. More likely they'll use some of that money to get a better player at 69. The top of this draft simply is not good enough to throw money at anyone. Maybe someone will emerge, but right now the top 5 guys in 2023 would all be clear 1-1 in this draft.

Wow. I knew he was bad, but that is a level of suck I had not reckoned with. OTOH, how mad would you be if your pitcher walked a guy like that?

That's why I said year 0 and another poster said year -1. They are in the process of tearing stuff down (waiting for contracts to end). I can even begin to imagine when their next competitive team will be. Montgomery looks like an mlb regular. I have hope for Nastrini as a rotation member, then a lot of guys like Eder and Cannon that they can plug in and hopefully hit on 1 or 2. Both Ramos and Quero have mlb regular upside, but are by no means sure things. After that it gets hard to imagine who the next wave really is. I guess I'm saying, enjoy the churros?

Probably, although looking at the bottom of that line up and considering Fedde and Soroka are 2-3 in your rotation, this thing could go South in a hurry.

This team truly could lose 110 games. We are just entering year zero of this rebuild. I support the new South Loop stadium just to get a target date on when they will try not to suck.

True, but his ‘roids were 1st rounders. Top notch quality.