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He's in the low 20s of Sox prospects. Most public scouting reports say 4th outfielder. He could be a glove-first centerfielder like all those Houston guys (Straw, etc.) I guess he could be more than that if the power develops, but kinda doubtful.

26 year old glove-first player who’s not elite even with the glove is not the sort of thing a big market team should be looking for. The moment you acquire him, you’re looking for the replacement. Cease was an elite prospect with elite upside. To make it worth trading him, you gotta get similar upside.

I will point out that I said "prospects."

Rafaela is a R/R undersized player who doesn’t walk. I bet the Red Sox want to trade him for Dylan Cease. After putting up historically low walk rates in a 101 loss season, I hope to God Getz is prioritizing pitch recognition/swing decision skills in all prospects acquired this offseason. Rafaela is the OF equivalent of Popeye Rodriguez.

These days most teams prefer to give up money rather than prospects, which tells you just how underpaid young players are in baseball. It's possible Sox have to move Cease at the deadline when there are no free agents to buy.

I think he has a shot to be Boston's starting 2b. At the very least, they'll move him between IF and OF to replace Enrique Hernandez. Edit cuz spellcheck turned Hernandez's name into a slur.

I think he's their starting 2b.

1 year prove it deal in that ballpark? Good luck.

Wow. Atlanta is paying less for Sale than Reds are paying Montas. Interesting.

I like Grissom more than most, but seems like a decent risk for ATL, depending upon how much cash they’re getting. I would certainly say diminished Sale > post-labrum Montas

Having watched them both play, I’m just a Roman Anthony Stan. Kind of to an irrational degree. He hits the ball HARD. Mayer is also a similar player to Montgomery. Sox need OF help. But you are probably right about future projections.

Wow. Montas is the ultimate crapshoot. He’s priced there at 2 WAR, he could give you 3-4, but he also has a serious chance of nothing. Interesting.

I hope you’re right. Would love Anthony. Funny thing, the Sox were rumored to be higher in both Clifford and Anthony than the industry. They drafted neither and turned out to be right. That’s why Jacob Gonzalez is such a head scratcher. Their scouts are not awful, and yet…

Yes, but this thread is preferable to all the other threads about crappy AAAA and over-the-hill types the Sox are dumpster diving for. At least thinking about trades provides a glimmer of false hope.

To make room for Flexen, Carlos Perez DFA.

Yeah, just kind of musing on the state of various farm systems. You brought up a quantity trade and that’s where the Yankees could do business, especially with pitching — see the Soto trade. I for sure would prefer a quality trade. Those are harder to come by as no one is trading you Holliday, Chourio, Caminero, Wyatt Langford etc.

For sure. I just don't think the Yanks would give all that up. I could see Dominguez OR Lombard, Hampton OR Warren and a couple of lower level lottery tickets, though. Personally, I'd steer clear of Spencer Jones. He could end up an All Star, but he has so many red flags, he could be a Joe Borchard.

Yanks are interesting. Yes, the top of their system (minus Dominguez) is very suspect, but in a quantity deal, they'd be competitive. Two factors: they have a great pitching development system. every year someone comes out of nowhere throwing 98 with wicked breaking stuff. And they always have the most volume when it comes to Dominican players. Kids from the island want to play for them, so they get a lot of good $50K signings. It's a weird system, for sure, but if you're doing a volume of complex league/lo A types, the Yankees have a lot.

Pallette signed for $1.5 mil. Anthony signed for $2.5 mil, $200,000 above what Boston gave their 1st rounder. Like has nothing to do with it.

It was rumored that the White Sox were on Anthony before the draft. He's a good-looking young hitter. Not a centerfielder, but I think his upside is higher than Cowser and he's a better athlete than Kjerstad. That said, probably 2 years away.

I will point out these are the White Sox we're talking about.

It's gonna be Gavin Sheets, right? Let's all just prepare ourselves, it's gonna be Gavin Sheets.

What I find interesting for the O’s is that they won the division pretty easily even though Tampa was +66 on them in run differential. That is a hard stat to do 2 years in a row. Now, you can argue that the O’s farm will make a difference. Do not sleep on Tampa’s top guys. I have seen him swing the bat a lot and Junior Caminero is one bad mfer. I think O’s need to improve to stay the same.

I thought Tim Hill was going to be nadir of how bad the dumpster diving would feel this off-season, but Getz dug deep and found another gear.

Hard pass on Fabian. First year at a low level was a mirage. His swing and miss is a fatal flaw. I doubt he ever gets 100 AB’s in the majors.