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They resigned Payton. They can do this if they are that committed to manipulating service time.

Can we just merge the entire board into this thread?

Too bad they cancelled Soxfest. Nick Avila and Victor Reyes could have been introduced as the big offseason acquisitions.

Huh? Is anyone reporting that Gallo has signed somewhere? Or is this an assumption?

Madrigal was an unforgivable pick. Remember how everyone was afraid they'd take Brady Singer? Tools matter. So does position. If you look at first rounders, the Sox took Anderson and Rodon, two excellent picks. After that, it's a catcher who can't stick at the position with a second round grade from everyone else, a college closer, an undersized righthander with control problems, a bad-bodied 3b with real 1b risk, an undersized 2b with 30 power, 30 arm, a 6' R/R 1b, a LHP with serious reliever risk, then Montgomery (a ss) and Schultz, who I think are pretty good risks. Crochet is by no means the dumbest of those picks. Hopefully, Vaughn hits like a mothertrucker to make this run look medium, but hopefully they learned their lesson and will stay SP/middle of the field for the first round and start taking 1b, 2b, relievers in rounds 5-10 like everyone else.

My issue with a Dodgers trade is their farm is a bit overrated cuz LA. Not unlike Cleveland and the Cubs, they have amazing depth, but I question impact. Miller, Pepiot, and Stone all have serious reliever risk. Vargas and Busch are both 1b types, and I do not believe in Pages. Outman seems like a second piece to me and his strikeout rate is terrifying. There is upside, but he could go full Christian Pache on you. Sox would not benefit from his plus defense in center because Robert ain't moving. Ultimately, if you trade TA to the Dodgers, I think you're getting more volume of potential 2 WAR guys than future stars. Sox probably know Miller well considering he's local and how close they are to the Louisville program. If they like him, I guess he'd be the centerpiece.

You can buy a lot of Frisbees with $2.5 mil.

He’s not great, but it does make sense. They do need depth behind starting LF Mark Payton.

Or 1.

I will have you know the Sox made the playoffs every year of what some call "The Nomar Mazara Era."

I agree. Mostly, I was just making a joke.

Bad news for JR: Sox did so little, IRS has ruled that Hahn's travel is not tax deductible.

Where is the money coming from? Is there a secret meth lab under Petco Park?

Colas is also a plus defender in right. Whichever way you go, you can't be wrong. Also, I like that Oscar throws lefty. That's a sizable advantage in right.

Overall a pretty good list. Personally, I thought they were light on both Sosa and Rodriguez, but with prospects, it always pays to bet the under.

I would to, if our defense did not suuuuck. Sox pitchers have to K a bunch of guys to survive.

Interesting. I can't see a world where they cut payroll, trade TA, AND trade Montgomery. Either they are all-in or they're not. 6 years of control of a lefty-hitting ss in a market where Trea Turner just signed an 11 year contract seems something a cheap org like the Sox would want. What makes you think they'd even consider moving Montgomery?

Personally, if the Sox are signing Bell (not gonna happen) there are a million things I would rather do. Benintendi is a 3 WAR player and MLBTR projects he’s getting 4/54. I would rather do that than dump a bunch of assets for Reynolds AND his escalating salary AND tons of money on the overrated Josh Bell.

My expectations are so low at this point, I’m just happy the Sox didn’t sign Franchy Cordero. That’s the kind of prospect scrap heap move I fear for adding a lefty to play left field.

In a world in which what’s left of Clevinger gets $12 mil for 1 year, Gio for $10.8 is a pretty darn good risk. He doesn’t have to be top 3 Cy Young to be well worth it. If the Sox are serious about being “in their competitive window,” you would not trade Gio unless you got a haul.

Personally, I'd be shocked if the Sox grabbed someone in the MLB portion. They see themselves as "in the competitive window." If they didn't have so much overpaid talent clogging up the garbage innings of their bullpen, I could imagine taking a flyer on a reliever, but to give a position player even 200 ab and keep them on the roster all year, that's a rebuild move. I find it hard to believe they lose anyone either. One outlet suggested Mieses, which, well I have a hard time seeing. I suppose someone could take a long shot like Freeman or Schilling, but neither of them performed down the stretch.

Probably. I just can’t see giving up Colas to get a guy to give what Colas is going to give you for 7 times the money. If they want to mortgage the future for 2023, sure. But mortgaging the present for the present never makes any sense to me. It’s possible the Sox just don’t have the pieces for a trade like this that is going to require a slight overpay.

Yeah, not worth it if you’re including Colas. If I am the Pirates, I need Montgomery, either Rodriguez or Sosa (whoever I like better) and either Mena, Vera, or Burke. That is a lot for a non-elite talent. The Sox have to at least check in on the price, though.

Fixed it.

Huh, it appears I am dead wrong about Jesse Winker. https://sodomojo.com/2022/10/18/mariners-jesse-winker-reportedly-odds/