Bob Sacamano
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) If Machado wants to be a full time SS should we pursue someone else? Arenado? Donaldson is already in decline Money talks. I think he follows the money (Boras client). If money is very similar if not even, then I would think he would go to whichever team plays him at SS/best chance of winning.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) I would take him on if it means getting a nice prospect like Frazier or Sheffield and SOME cash relief. Maybe like $15M thrown in. He has 3 years left on his deal, but money shouldn't be an issue any of those years. I can't see the Yankees dealing one of those guys if they aren't clearing the entire salary. I would think they would be better off using Frazier in a deal for a pitcher.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) Both Cameron and Sawchik on Fangraphs mentioned us as a possible trade partner for the Yankees to dump Ellsbury to buy a prospect like Frazier or Sheffield. Not that big a fan of that idea however. I did look back at his contract and see that it is about $21 million each year (I initially thought it was like $25) for the next 3 years. I feel like if they offered one of those guys, I would probably take it and then play Ellsbury and hope he can do well enough to dump most of his salary. You would have to think he's worth close to at least half his salary.
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Winter Meetings 2017
So the Padres take on Headley and most of his salary to take on Bryan Mitchell?
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White Sox have shown interest in Machado
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) I don't know why anyone would give up anything of value honestly. He's not going to re-sign anywhere. He'd be a fool not to reach free agency. I mean, it's not like he'd be the only rental dealt for something significant in the history of the game.
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White Sox have shown interest in Machado
QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6242/manny-machado Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Orioles want "two young, controllable starting pitchers" back in a trade for Manny Machado. The Orioles don't expect to re-sign Machado, so they appear willing to seriously consider offers from interested teams. No word on which team might have the advantage in trade talks, but the Cardinals have been mentioned as a possibility. One interesting side note from Rosenthal is that Machado wants to move to shortstop for his final year before free agency. Dec 12 - 12:35 PM interesting. I was just thinking with Hardy gone, why is this not already the plan if he stays?
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White Sox have shown interest in Machado
I wonder if teams will try to get an agreement with the O's and MLB for a couple day window to talk extension and agree upon a deal based on said extension. It's happened before. I'm sure the O's would love that as that would drive up the price.
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Yankees shopping Clint Frazier
QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:35 AM) I wonder if they could make a play on Frazier by taking on a bad contract like Ellsbury I would assume it would be the full contract and I personally don't want the Sox to be paying Ellsbury over the next 3 years. Plus, who knows if he would even waive his no-trade clause.
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Winter Meetings 2017
Meetings are so slow this year. Us baseball fans were spoiled that one year when there was like 20 trades (or close to it).
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:06 AM) His current projections plug him in at 1.2 WAR/600, but that's also taking into account his previous replacement level seasons. Assuming the breakthrough was real, and I don't see much to think that it wasn't, there's no reason he couldn't be viewed or sold as a 2-2.5 WAR player moving forward. Over the next 4 years, that puts his value around $70 million for which he will probably be paid something like $24 mill ($500K 2018, $5.5 mill 2019, $8 mill 2020, $10 mill 2021), which provides $46 million of surplus value. A 55 FV prospect is worth about $40 million. I am admittedly grasping at straws here, but I don't see something along those lines as an impossibility, and if you acquire Frazier, then it opens the door for an Avisail Garcia trade immediately, even if you have to take a slight discount on his overall value. I think he will end up getting moved for the best offer. Not this week but maybe later in the off-season after Ozuna, Yelich and other trade candidates go and JDM signs with a team.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Clint Frazier Ha. Do us a favor for the trade in the summer.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) That would be fine, but what do you really think the Sox could get for Sanchez? I'm guessing nothing too interesting. Agreed. Realistically, maybe a couple C prospects?
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Yankees shopping Clint Frazier
QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) I'd be shocked if the Yankees started two young, unproven rookies in the infield to begin the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see them bring Frazier back. Also, makes Yolmer Sanchez much more appealing for the Yankees given his defensive ability to play 2b and 3b at a high level... I just meant at some point. I'm sure they will sign a stop-gap, backup IF to open the year. Darwin Barney if they want someone cheap to fill in temporarily and defend really well makes sense.
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Yankees shopping Clint Frazier
I would guess: 1. Brett Gardner, DH 2. Aaron Judge LF 3. Giancarlo Stanton, RF 4. Gary Sanchez, C 5. Greg Bird, 1B 6. Didi Gregorious 7. Aaron Hicks CF 8. Gleyber Torres, 2B 9. Miguel Andujar, 3B (Headley just dealt) Corners will rotate a lot between those spots and DH for days off.
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Winter Meetings 2017
Chase Headley to Padres
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Well this was a generally quiet first day for everyone huh? Yeah. Biggest move was what, Phillies signing Neshek?
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Abreu trade "unlikely"
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) This is not true. The White Sox are a big market club. If they let Abreu walk after 2019, they will receive a pick after the 2nd round for his services. Yeah I couldn't remember the exact factors. Thanks. Still should be a point brought up in trade discussions though (especially if he goes somewhere like Colorado or St. Louis).
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Abreu trade "unlikely"
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) Those aren't very high anymore. There's factors (like his contract size, >$50 mill) but it should be after the first round. Teams just don't automatically give up their highest pick.
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Abreu trade "unlikely"
Abreu can also net a comp pick when/if he leaves in 2 years.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 07:11 AM) Unless you are wanting to send Eloy back to the Cubs and take an inferior offer, I don't want to hear about not trading with rivals. Right. And it's not like we are dealing a long-term piece. We're talking 2 years. Plus, the cost is higher for division rivals.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) Jon HeymanVerified account @JonHeyman 13m13 minutes ago Matt Adams didn’t have a great trade market but he’s drawing interest as a free agent. Nats royals Indians via @jcrasnick Guy mashes right-handers. Makes sense in a platoon somewhere.
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Abreu trade "unlikely"
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) I mean, I've kind of walked through this multiple times now, but the idea would be to buy low and take advantage of a desperate Red Sox front office. Most of the analytics community believes JBJ is the superior asset because he's younger, cheaper, under an additional year of control, and plays a premium position. I myself personally would probably avoid doing a 1 for 1 swap because I place significant value on what Abreu does off the field. Having said that, if the Red Sox gave me a secondary piece that was too good to pass up (Chavis being my example), I'd likely take such a deal and hope for JBJ's offensive game to rebound a little bit and look into trading at the deadline or next offseason. It's usually not too hard to find a taker for a talented, fairly young CF. Again, this all assumes my scouts believe that JBJ is likely to rebound and that I can get a nice secondary piece as part of the deal. Red Sox don't really have any prospects I really want added to a potential package personally.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) I wonder if the White Sox will let teams know James Shields is available. The Royals can't possibly think other teams thought these guys were untouchable could they? haha seriously. And the Sox should and also should be willing to eat close to all the remaining salary to facilitate a move.
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) It is horribly written but I assume it means the most active the Sox will be is during the Rule V draft. Oh yeah that makes sense. I kind of expect this anyway (barring overpay).
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Winter Meetings 2017
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) I don’t understand what that tweet means? Yeah someone needs to proof read that.