Tony

Bullshit There is nothing misleading about the Sox having an 180 million dollar payroll this year, and being 7-15, along with all the other stats that have been mentioned. You act as if Rick Hahn has never met Jerry or has no understanding of how he operates. Yes, he isn’t able to sign a Bryce Harper. That sucks for us and Rick, and Jerry needs to go. We are all on the same page. But to place all the blame on Jerry, and taking any of the blame off Rick is insane and asinine. We just got swept by the best team in the league, who hold a payroll of 74 million. They have been in the playoffs the last 4 years, and currently have the best record in MLB. The decisions Rick have made has directly put the Sox in this position. It’s his job to work within the limitations the owner sets, which quite frankly isn’t near as limiting as teams like the Rays, Brewers, Guardians, etc…who have had a way better track record than the Sox the last decade.

The Sox “window” started in 2020, after a 72-89 2019 season. As we know, since the start of the 2nd half of 2021, the Sox have been under .500 during that time. They’ve now played more baseball under .500 during their “window” than above it. Let that sink in for the “mastermind” that is Rick Hahn.

Or do they all know they literally can’t be fired and have tenure, and just stopped caring?

I’m excited about the upcoming Bears season and hopefully the seasons that follow. Aside from that, there isn’t much in this city to get excited about, and that’s the problem. The last 5-6 years have been dreadful in this city. Our teams suck. All of them. We’ve forgotten what’s it’s like to have a real shot to win something. Once we have that, the feelings will come back.

I'm not offended ? I'm laughing at living on such an alternate reality as everyone else, and then getting defensive about it.

Let's go!

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You've been judging the Sox "on paper" for the last 2+ seasons, how has that worked out for you? The Rays could not be more different than the Sox. They pitch incredibly well (don't strike a ton of guys out but also have given up the fewest hits in the league thus far), have the lowest WHIP in the league, they lead the league in HR's, OBP & AVG and play good to very good defense. The Sox trout out a collection of over-hyped, yet to deliver and expensive talent that has them holding a deserving 7-12 record. It's amazing to see you not only hype up the Sox over the last year, but use terms like "ordinary" and "doesn't pop off the page" when talking about a franchise that has made the playoffs the last 4 seasons, in one of the toughest divisions in baseball, with an incredibly small payroll, and are currently 16-3. GMAFB

They're a really fun watch honestly.

So was Beckham's approach...

I suppose more cowbell couldn't hurt the situation.

The depressing thing is none of it matters. They continue on this path....they are who they are. They "blow it all up"...It's the same FO that got us into this mess They hire a new FO...best case scenario, but there is absolutely zero history to tell us the right hires will be made, not with Jerry still running the show. The same has been true for the last decade+...This is our best hope:

STRONG Caufield vibes here

As of today, since the start of the 2nd half of the 2021 season, the White Sox are…. 126-125 During the peak “World Series Window”

All of this is correct. “Hope” is pretty much at an all-time low. As I’ve said multiple times before, Hahn and his front office are a huge problem. I do believe that the “right” person could work and be successful under the limitations JR puts on his FO. But as you mentioned, even if Hahn and the FO is gutted, why should we have any faith that JR would bring in the “right” person? Everything needs to change, starting with the Owner, but that’s also a total crap shoot. Put another way, it absolutely sucks being a White Sox fan.

“Air” was great

The term “smug asshole” seems appropriate here, no?

Guys...Relax! It's early! It's only April!

Such a likable bunch

I'm sorry...."AGAIN?" What the f*** does "again" mean here?

I was at this one with my dad, my dad was so down on the Hawks, for years I tried to convince him the ABC line was legit, Ruutu was going to save the franchise, etc. It was the same deal with Kane and Toews...until he saw this goal in person and said "Ok this might be for real"

I disagree with this, only because what the Sox really need is a pipeline of talent that starts at the draft and can produce solid ML players on a regular basis. Then you don't have to overpay for somewhat average players on the FA market.

We literally have 15 years of evidence to tell us that as well. We aren't talking about small sample sizes here. I know Rick has limitations on him because of Jerry. We all do. You know who else has limitations? The Rays. The Brewers. The Twins. The Guardians. The Sox have a 183 million dollar payroll this season according to spotrac, good for 11th in the league. Top half. If you combined the payrolls of the Rays and Guardians, it still doesn't equal the Sox payroll.

But again, that's what we've sort of been saying...It's not 13 games in April. This has been White Sox Baseball since about August of 2021. Not telling you "not to believe" and yes, I agree there still is a lot of talent on this roster...but there is FAR more evidence that this team/core isn't very good and holding onto hope that it will all suddenly just "click" doesn't come with very high odds

This isn't a "told you so" post but for a lot of us, the warning signs were right in front of us, obviously dating back to last season (and even 2021 when they played s%*# baseball the 2nd half of that season) This is EXACTLY what a lot of us predicted given how they built this roster.