Tony

He is a major part of it, yes. There are plenty of organizations much more successful than the White Sox that have done it with a much smaller payroll, consistently. I’m not saying there are serious limitations ownership has set on this FO, but let’s not pretend it’s an impossible task to build a winner with a $180 million payroll. It’s done every year.

This is the most OOTP trade I’ve ever seen

Be ready for the “But what did you really expect them to do? This off-season has been pretty good, they were never going to spend money, be happy” crowd to come in and tell you you’re wrong. Shame on you for thinking they would try and actually act like a contender.

Again, no one asked you to add the comment that you "have not been a big baseball fan of Liam" and YOU decided to post that in a thread about him being diagnosed with cancer. Given his performance on the field, it's entirely reasonable for someone to ask you "why" you haven't been a fan of his performance. Now you're playing the victim and saying people are piling on. It seemed like a simple question, that came from your original comment.

I do that trade easy.

Man I haven't thought about this movie in probably 20 years

With perfect health and players performing to their high-end ceilings....the team could be very good. If you take each players best year, and insert all of those numbers into a lineup of Anderson-Moncada-Eloy-Robert-Vaughn-Grandal-Benintendi, that team can hit the hell out of the baseball. Same goes for the pitching staff. The problem, of course, is that both of those things are totally unrealistic. Staying on the field has been a huge problem for most of the guys listed above, and we haven't seen those "high ceiling" numbers from a number of them in a while. So do with that what you will.

why

I think he's talking about where have we actually seen MODOK before, but I know what you're saying. The "character" that is playing the MODOK role in the MCU is a character we've seen before.

I'm sorry, in 2023 are you actually trying to make the argument that Sox fans don't support the organization enough?

While it 100% could happen, it shouldn't. There is zero reason this team shouldn't have 7-8 wins next year unless injuries totally take the team down.

What’s going to be interesting this off-season is to see what Poles does and doesn’t say about Fields. If they’re smart, he should give off lukewarm feelings and say everything is on the table. Publicly going all-in on Fields, even if that is the case, only hurts them when talking to other teams.

Dude, you like the Lions. We get it.

Packers out. The Bears had Tim Boyle starting at QB today and this is like the best day in the last decade for the Bears lol

Awful. Liam seems like a fantastic guy and I’m sure he’s going to raise a lot of awareness and money for the cause. Really hope they caught it early and he’ll be Ok. Baseball doesn’t matter with something like this.

He won’t.

Whatever happens, the Bears are going to 100% drive the entire NFL offseason, and I’m here for it

They would still get a haul for Fields, so it’s also like trading out of the No. 1, so it can work. I don’t think they should or will, but they can certainly consider it

Yeah, counting on David Mills for anything was a mistake

Be a hero, Lovie

I 100% think trading down is the right move. They need volume, not a franchise defensive player (there isn’t an WR/OL that has 2nd overall potential it seems) Like any team, it all rides on the QB. If Fields is the guy, honestly they have all the assets and flexibility (credit to Poles there) they need to put together a competitive team next season. But this is the most important offseason probably in the last decade honestly.

And in Joe Burrow’s rookie season, 2020, the year before they went to the Super Bowl, they were 4-11-1. Things can turn around quickly in the NFL. You don’t think Fields is the guy. That’s fine. Maybe the Bears don’t either. But if they do, and if Fields is “the guy”, the notion of “punting” to 2025 is laughable