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Apparently this isn't official yet, though most scouts believe that he will in fact go to LA.

I want nothing to do with Frazier. Absolutely nothing.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Except guys like Seager have experience. If you get Pederson, he's another guy with experience. They are exactly what you think Betts and Bryant are (young guys with experience). And yes, they started a significant amount of games last year. Here's some food for thought for you guys who feel like you can't trade Sale except in a for sure deal - Sale dropped in the draft because of his delivery. He's spent time on the DL already. You can't guarantee that his arm won't snap off can you? You can't guarantee his success over the next 6 years. Hell, everyone thought Danks was a sure thing since he didn't throw too hard, had a pretty good delivery and looked durable. Let's look at a situation in which dealing an ace pitcher can help your franchise, even 10 years down the line. Mark Mulder for Haren, Calero, and Barton in 2004. That trade is still paying dividends for Oakland: *Haren (and Connor Robertson) was traded in 2007 for Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez, and Greg Smith. *Anderson was traded for Drew Pomeranz and Chris Jensen. *Pomeranz was just traded for Yonder alonso and Mark Rcyznzpnap Scrabble, who are on the 25 man roster. *Cunningham (and Scott Hairston) went to San Diego in 2010 for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard -- Sogard is still on the 25 man roster. *Carter (and Brad Peacock) were sent to Houston in 2013 for Fernando Rodriguez and Jed Lowrie, who is back on the roster now lol. Rodriguez pitched last year and is arby eligible and should bounce back and forth between Oakland and AAA in the bullpen. *CarGo and Smith were traded (with Huston Street) to Colorado for Matt Holliday in 2008. *Holliday was traded in 2009 for Clayton Mortensen, Shane Peterson, and Brett Wallace. *Wallace was traded for Michael Taylor, who was traded for Jake Sanchez. Sanchez is still in the A's minor league system. So right now in 2015 the A's can trace back 6 players currently with the team back to the Mark Mulder trade 11 years ago. Again, injuries are a risk with any MLB pitcher, not just Sale. You're grasping at straws if that's the only reason why you think he should be traded.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:23 PM) Bears suck Fixed it for you.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) The 49ers are f***ing awful. So is Robbie Gould.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:18 AM) what?! what old, washed up, injured crap could the bulls have traded to get into the top 5 as far as picks? #facepalm #whatthef***# McDermott, Mirotic, Snell, a couple 1st rounders in future years, etc.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) I think they'd probably go after Heyward since they were interested in him before he was traded to Cardinals and have shown willingness to spend (Tanaka effort). I think it's possible that the Sox still go after Heyward anyway.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:12 AM) So you think they add a righty, keep Johnson, trade Q for a haul? Don't see them eating any money to move Danks so he should be locked into a spot. I'd love it if they'd throw Danks in the bullpen as the long man, but they won't do that.

Why would he go to the A's for anything else other than the money? They're going to be terrible.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Winter Meetings are in Nashville Gotcha. I figured it was a typo because Levine is an idiot.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) @MLBBruceLevine: White Sox right handed starter- Third baseman -middle infield help will be Nashville targets Nashville?

Lawrie would be an upgrade at 3rd base if he repeats his production from last year, and that was playing half his games at the Coliseum. Hahn should be all over him.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) JD Davis is a 3B. '14 3rd round pick and hit .289/.370/.520 in High A last year Derek Fisher is an outfielder as well. Sandwich pick in the same '14 draft. Also advanced to High A last year and has a .283/.369/.468 so far in the minors with 48 steals Thanks. If Q or Sale are traded, I'd like a catcher and a third baseman at the very least since those are definitely positions of need for the Sox.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) Can we just go back to the more logical move of trading Q? My newest proposal is with the Astros Q for Preston Tucker, Michael Feliz, JD Davis, and Derek Fisher What positions do Davis and Fisher play? I know Tucker is an outfielder and Feliz is a pitcher.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 04:01 PM) You don't get a lot of mileage out of Asian players. Ichiro Suzuki says hello.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 12:33 PM) I bet Samardzija has an ERA around 3 next season. I wouldn't doubt it.

So what number pick do the Sox receive from the Giants? 31st overall?

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 12:09 PM) 2010 2012 2014 That's the past. They sure as hell won't be winning any championships now that he's on the team.

LOLOLOLOLOL. I feel bad for Giants fans.

Sale does seem to get fatigued towards the end of each season, but I think that's just because he's tired as opposed to being injured. Like Jose said, one of his elbow injuries came on the heels of one of the worst managerial decisions I've ever seen and the other one came off of his 8 start streak of 10 of more K's when he clearly was giving it everything he had as well.

I hate seeing the comments that say the Sox should trade Sale because of his "injury concerns". How is he that different from any other pitcher? Yeah, he has a funky motion, but he's so tall and lanky that I don't think it's as bad for his elbow/arm/shoulder as people make it out to be. People have said that he's a TJ surgery waiting to happen since the day he was drafted, and nothing significant has happened to him yet. Knock on wood that nothing ever does.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) If the Cubs and Atlanta agree to the speculated Soler/Miller swap, the cubs rotation would be pretty solid on paper with Lackey as their #4. I hope the Dodgers up their offer for Miller. Agreed. I don't want to see a guy like Miller, Carrasco, Salazar, etc go to the Cubs.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:24 PM) Wonder if this crushes my dreams of us trading Q for 2-3 MLB ready hitters. How would this crush your dreams? There are so many teams looking for quality pitching still and everyone would love to have Q in their rotation. I don't think it's a matter of finding a suitor for Q, it's a matter of getting a good enough return for him to pull the trigger on a deal.

QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) I have a feeling they either trade for a big starter (Q!) or bring in another FA like Chen or Shark. This is also another possibility. Although I doubt that they'd trade Inciarte/Peralta or whoever else now since they're clearly going all in.

This could also force the Dodgers to overpay for Q or gulp...even Sale out of necessity since they have to replace Greinke.