Complication w/Moncada is @RedSox having invested $63 million in bonus and taxes to sign him. Puts him in separate category.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760129399568101376

 

I mean, they get 3.5 years of a Hall of Fame talent for less than that.

 

Seems like a good investment.

I will continue to say, I find it highly improbable that Sale is dealt now. The Sox would be taking much greater risk, most likely, dealing him now, because it is far less likely they can get young, proven MLB assets (such as a Betts) if you deal at the deadline. If you wait to the off-season, the package shifts a bit, but you also probably get yourself at least a guy or two who lower the potential "floor" of the deal. In a lot of the "rumored" deals I've seen, It would almost take every guy hitting their ceiling for the trade to have very much upside.

 

For example, if a deal is centered around Urias, then the liklihood he even becomes something close to Sale is pretty unlikely, so to win out or even get fair, you need to get a few other guys who are solid contributors (and to have that, you need enough to make up for the typical bust rates, etc). It isn't like we have a guy with one year left, where you realize, you are talking about a shorter-duration in terms of value given up, but in Sale and Q's case, we have years of control, so the benefit of these young players "and the additional years" of control is minimized a bit as well.

No, I think you misunderstood. We like the sharing and really no one came at you too strongly about it and the reaction was just a bit bizarre...bananas and DVDs and what not...that's all. Keep at it and continue to share.

 

 

Got it! I'll try to hold it together. Either way...it looks like there's some movement with Boston and that's a good thing.

Names of interest in @whitesox Sale/Quintana talks w/@Dodgers: LHP Julio Urias, 1B-OF Clay Bellinger, OF Alex Verdugo, 2B Willie Calhoun.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760129888904966144

 

Q to Dodgers, Sale to Red Sox.

 

Dear lord please.

Yoan Moncada viewed as unlikely piece in Chris Sale talks. Potential @RedSox package leads w/Andrew Benintendi, Eduardo Rodriguez.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760128750784839680

I like Rodriguez, but he needs to be the third of fourth piece for me, not the second.

Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 1m1 minute ago

Names of interest in @whitesox Sale/Quintana talks w/@Dodgers: LHP Julio Urias, 1B-OF Clay Bellinger, OF Alex Verdugo, 2B Willie Calhoun.

 

I agree with these names

Complication w/Moncada is @RedSox having invested $63 million in bonus and taxes to sign him. Puts him in separate category.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760129399568101376

 

Fine then give us boegarts lol

Q to Dodgers, Sale to Red Sox.

 

Dear lord please.

 

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I will continue to say, I find it highly improbable that Sale is dealt now. The Sox would be taking much greater risk, most likely, dealing him now, because it is far less likely they can get young, proven MLB assets (such as a Betts) if you deal at the deadline. If you wait to the off-season, the package shifts a bit, but you also probably get yourself at least a guy or two who lower the potential "floor" of the deal. In a lot of the "rumored" deals I've seen, It would almost take every guy hitting their ceiling for the trade to have very much upside.

 

For example, if a deal is centered around Urias, then the liklihood he even becomes something close to Sale is pretty unlikely, so to win out or even get fair, you need to get a few other guys who are solid contributors (and to have that, you need enough to make up for the typical bust rates, etc). It isn't like we have a guy with one year left, where you realize, you are talking about a shorter-duration in terms of value given up, but in Sale and Q's case, we have years of control, so the benefit of these young players "and the additional years" of control is minimized a bit as well.

I'd honestly rather roll the dice on the unproven guys at this point I think.

 

If the deal is Sale for Betts and Eduardo Rodriguez, for example, I dunno how much that really helps us.

 

 

I actually like Phil Rogers more than most, but what he's tweeting out isn't any kind of insider stuff. Phil everyone knows Q or Sale would require a few top prospects.

Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 1m1 minute ago

Names of interest in @whitesox Sale/Quintana talks w/@Dodgers: LHP Julio Urias, 1B-OF Clay Bellinger, OF Alex Verdugo, 2B Willie Calhoun.

 

I agree with these names

If I'm the Dodgers, I am not moving Urias for Q.

Right-hander Jose DeLeon also among @Dodgers prospects being discussed in Chris Sale/Jose Quintana talks.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760130878383194112

Complication w/Moncada is @RedSox having invested $63 million in bonus and taxes to sign him. Puts him in separate category.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760129399568101376

 

 

You should have listened to me last week. I stated the very same thing.

 

I kind of had a feeling this might be a reason.

Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 35s35 seconds ago

Right-hander Jose DeLeon also among @Dodgers prospects being discussed in Chris Sale/Jose Quintana talks.

Just taking a break from work to check on this. Man it would suck to not get Moncada for Sale. I'm not sure I make that deal. Maybe the sox don't like the contract of Moncada.

 

Benintendi, Devers, Kopech and Rodriguez isn't enough I feel like.

Edited August 1, 20169 yr by SouthSideSale

If I'm the Dodgers, I am not moving Urias for Q.

 

Kershaw's injury changes everything for them. They need an anchor to get them to the finish line and hope he gets back.

Getting told on Twitter that Sale isn't worth Moncada and Ben.. These people are f***ing stoned

Something else to keep in mind w/@RedSox Sale/Quintana talks: David Robertson could also be included. @RedSox not done in bullpen.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760131391669567488

Something else to keep in mind w/@RedSox Sale/Quintana talks: David Robertson could also be included. @RedSox not done in bullpen.

https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/760131391669567488

 

If Robertson gets included, Moncada definitely needs to come along.

Kershaw's injury changes everything for them. They need an anchor to get them to the finish line and hope he gets back.

honsely q need to get out of chicago he waisting his talents here when you team cant hold the lead or score more runs for him

 

If Robertson gets included, Moncada definitely needs to come along.

 

Sale and Robertson for Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, and Swihart.

Just taking a break from work to check on this. Man it would suck to not get Moncada for Sale. I'm not sure I make that deal. Maybe the sox don't like the contract of Moncada.

 

Benintendi, Devers, Kopech and Rodriguez isn't enough I feel like.

The Red Sox paid Moncada a $31.5 million bonus, and paid the league a $31.5 million penalty. They are invested $63 million. The Sox would pay him minimal amounts. It's Boston that doesn't want that $63 million investment to go away.

Sale and Robertson for Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Rodriguez or Kopech and Vasquez?

There's gotta be a way to work around the fact they paid $63 million for Moncada.

 

Include Robertson or Melky and be willing to eat some cash?

Edited August 1, 20169 yr by soxfan2014

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