A rotation of:

1. Rodon

2. Giolito

3. Lopez

4. Kopech

5. Dunning/Adams/Hansen/Fulmer

 

The White Sox have never had a rotation with that much potential. Ever. Obviously not all these guys will reach that potential, but you can't tell me you don't find that at least a little bit intriguing. There are still plenty of pieces they can move for hitters. Give it time and judge the offseason when pitchers and catchers report next year. Hahn isn't done yet.

Disagree. This is the definition of overhyping. Our current rotation had far more "potential" in the sense that you had Q/Sale/Rodon plus the Adams / Hansen / Fulmer of the world. Odds of any of the guys we get being better then Sale / Q is pretty slim. Not knocking who we got as I'm a fan of what we are doing...but this is the epitome of overrating things. Definitely more depth to the rotation, but our rotations were never the problem (back end sure). OF course I don't get very excited over Adams / Fulmer (hoping they prove me wrong).

I have said for months that if you went this direction you had to do it right, and build your position players. In the two biggest deals of the off season, they have probably came out even. It is a huge failure so far.

Are you letting your position that the Sox can't rebuild cloud your judgment?

Supposedly, the Sox & Astros are far along in a deal for Q according to MLB Network. Did anyone else hear that?

 

Posted that in the Q trade.

Hahn says he sees all 3 as front end starters.

I have said for months that if you went this direction you had to do it right, and build your position players. In the two biggest deals of the off season, they have probably came out even. It is a huge failure so far.

Yes. Nothing spells failure more than when you acquire the #1 and #3 rated prospects in all of baseball.

Will someone please take Avisail from us?

 

He'll be a warm body out in RF this year.

 

I really didn't think the league would value Eaton this highly, but they do. I think there was a good chance that he would never be seen as a potential 6 WAR player again.

I really didn't think the league would value Eaton this highly, but they do. I think there was a good chance that he would never be seen as a potential 6 WAR player again.

I don't think the other 28 GMs do either. Thank God 1 was that dumb.

Here's the latest ranks in the Sox farm!

 

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=cws

 

Damn, that's lookin sexy.

 

And more to come!

I'm surprised by ss2k5 calling this a failure but I think we need to wait.

 

Our rebuild will not work regardless if the only contributors in 2018 were from trades and not our own development.

 

Best news of day is bucket saying there is a big change internally. They are finally serious about something. They need to be good at it. Or else we will just be where we are now, getting lucky on 4 guys and garbage all around it.

Hahn echoes what has been said here.

 

They are interested in the best possible packages, doesn't matter the position.

 

In other words, they're holding a full-scale firesale and don't expect to compete until 2020. They'll worry about the starting lineup for 2018 next winter.

 

It's always best to sell high on guys like Eaton. Most underrated thing about this is that Hahn needs praised about his contract negotiations that allowed him to nail this off-season (signing Sale, Eaton and Q to controllable contracts a couple years ago)

Forget top 10, can anyone name 5 better farm systems right now? We could be tops easily when this is all done.

I have said for months that if you went this direction you had to do it right, and build your position players. In the two biggest deals of the off season, they have probably came out even. It is a huge failure so far.

You could flip these same three guys for more than you could Eaton

It's always best to sell high on guys like Eaton. Most underrated thing about this is that Hahn needs praised about his contract negotiations that allowed him to nail this off-season (signing Sale, Eaton and Q to controllable contracts a couple years ago)

 

As long as Hahn gets a couple more high-tier position player prospects this winter, he's going about this the right way. You can't win via free agency and trades when you're not a marquee franchise with deep pockets.

 

Disagree. This is the definition of overhyping. Our current rotation had far more "potential" in the sense that you had Q/Sale/Rodon plus the Adams / Hansen / Fulmer of the world. Odds of any of the guys we get being better then Sale / Q is pretty slim. Not knocking who we got as I'm a fan of what we are doing...but this is the epitome of overrating things. Definitely more depth to the rotation, but our rotations were never the problem (back end sure). OF course I don't get very excited over Adams / Fulmer (hoping they prove me wrong).

This is a great point.

 

I was also hoping they would target more position players, not so much pitching.

so bruce levine saying the nationals will put adam in center insead of right

 

https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/806639448448499712

 

 

In other words, they're holding a full-scale firesale and don't expect to compete until 2020. They'll worry about the starting lineup for 2018 next winter.

I'd say 2019 and 2018 if we are WAY ahead of schedule like the Cubs were. So far the first two moves are pretty incredible.

Holy moly ! What a last few days it's been ! Madness.

so bruce levine saying the nationals will put adam in center insead of right

 

https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/806639448448499712

 

And suddenly, they devalue Eaton.

Are you letting your position that the Sox can't rebuild cloud your judgment?

 

They are proving it as far as I am concerned.

Yes. Nothing spells failure more than when you don't fill any holes with your top two chips.

so bruce levine saying the nationals will put adam in center insead of right

 

https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/806639448448499712

That was the message I got from their presser

You could flip these same three guys for more than you could Eaton

 

Eh. I think one thing we have learned this winter is that on the trade market, prospects are worth less than ever before. It seems like it takes more and more of them to get deals done. These guys have to turn into actual star major leaguers before they will have real value.

This take exceeds the core temperature of the sun