Thad Bosley Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:34 PM) You've won me over. This really is the dumbest organization in baseball. Only the White Sox could lack position players, and then trade their best chips for pitching. We need to fire everyone up top and start over. Lol - your reaction to all of this is very surprising, given the efforts you've undergone in the past few years to put lipstick on the pigs that were the '13, '14, '15, and '16 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:34 PM) You've won me over. This really is the dumbest organization in baseball. Only the White Sox could lack position players, and then trade their best chips for pitching. We need to fire everyone up top and start over. Â Two of the top three pieces in the Boston trade are position players. And after moving Sale, the Sox pitching surplus went down as well. Â I continue to be baffled by your position here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:04 PM) Q to the Astros for a slew of young hitters is the logical final move...the Dodgers seem to be closed off as an avenue. I can see the Astros and Rox being in play for Quintana or a mega Quintana and Abreu package both have the farms and needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Hahn on MLBN in a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:34 PM) You've won me over. This really is the dumbest organization in baseball. Only the White Sox could lack position players, and then trade their best chips for pitching. We need to fire everyone up top and start over. You're literally the only person in America who doesn't think the white sox dominated the last two days. What does that tell you? Glad you're not running the sox. Â The sox just got an absolute haul for eaton. When you get that haul you take it. Pitching or positional players. And you do the same thing with Quintana and everyone else. Take the best offer and worry about positions later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:38 PM) I can see the Astros and Rox being in play for Quintana or a mega Quintana and Abreu package both have the farms and needs. Â Would love Rodgers from the Rockies. But I think the ultimate prize is Bregman. I wonder if Abreu and Quintana could get that done. Â I honestly don't know if the Astros can get Quintana if they don't give up Bregman. Tucker and Martes are good prospects, but with what we just got for Eaton, that seems like a lowball offer. I think the compromise is that we package Frazier/Abreu in there to sweeten the pot. They need a bat at a corner position. Â I would love to see us get Bregman + Tucker as the main pieces in a Quintana + Abreu/Frazier trade. Edited December 7, 2016 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:38 PM) I can see the Astros and Rox being in play for Quintana or a mega Quintana and Abreu package both have the farms and needs. Â If the Astros want Q and Abreu, they'd better be prepared to give up Bregman++++. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:34 PM) You've won me over. This really is the dumbest organization in baseball. Only the White Sox could lack position players, and then trade their best chips for pitching. We need to fire everyone up top and start over.  A rotation of: 1. Rodon 2. Giolito 3. Lopez 4. Kopech 5. Dunning/Adams/Hansen/Fulmer  The White Sox have never had a rotation with that much potential. Ever. Obviously not all these guys will reach that potential, but you can't tell me you don't find that at least a little bit intriguing. There are still plenty of pieces they can move for hitters. Give it time and judge the offseason when pitchers and catchers report next year. Hahn isn't done yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Supposedly, the Sox & Astros are far along in a deal for Q according to MLB Network. Did anyone else hear that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I wasn't thrilled with the return for Sale but this makes up for it. Great trade for a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm obviously willing to trade Abreu if it's in the right package but I almost feel like the right move is to hold on to him and see if he can have a monster first half before flipping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Supposedly, the Sox & Astros are far along in a deal for Q according to MLB Network. Did anyone else hear that? I caught that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:41 PM) I wasn't thrilled with the return for Sale but this makes up for it. Great trade for a rebuild. My sentiments exactly. Sale trade was a 7/10 to me, this is a 10/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Holy s***. This is a haul for Eaton. I can't believe we got this much for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) For Mike:Â @BNightengale 30s31 seconds ago The #WhiteSox kept asking for #RedSox 3B Rafael Dever in Chris Sale trade, but the RedSox refused. Compromise: Victor Diaz and Luis Basabe. Clearly telling Boston the Nats are giving me their #1/2/3/6...Boston smart enough not to budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 LOL @ the guys on MLBN saying that this means guys like Frazier, Robertson and Avisail will be sold off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:42 PM) My sentiments exactly. Sale trade was a 7/10 to me, this is a 10/10. Â With how much Kopech's stock has risen in just the past few months, I think the Sale trade's probably a 8/10. Â Had we gotten Devers instead of Basabe, I'd rate it a easy 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) A rotation of: 1. Rodon 2. Giolito 3. Lopez 4. Kopech 5. Dunning/Adams/Hansen/Fulmer  The White Sox have never had a rotation with that much potential. Ever. Obviously not all these guys will reach that potential, but you can't tell me you don't find that at least a little bit intriguing. There are still plenty of pieces they can move for hitters. Give it time and judge the offseason when pitchers and catchers report next year. Hahn isn't done yet. Hell, judge them in 2018 when they'll have the earliest possible chance at competing.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:41 PM) I caught that too. I don't trust the television when twitter is around ha. Seriously though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Here's the latest ranks in the Sox farm!  http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=cws  Damn, that's lookin sexy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:32 PM) My boy Flowers. Yeah I saw that weak wave of a swing on a 98 mph fastball on the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) Lol - your reaction to all of this is very surprising, given the efforts you've undergone in the past few years to put lipstick on the pigs that were the '13, '14, '15, and '16 seasons. Â I have said for months that if you went this direction you had to do it right, and build your position players. In the two biggest deals of the off season, they have probably came out even. It is a huge failure so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:45 PM) I have said for months that if you went this direction you had to do it right, and build your position players. In the two biggest deals of the off season, they have probably came out even. It is a huge failure so far. For the 4th time, there are more trades to be executed. Be patient. Q to Houston for bats could happen very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:42 PM) LOL @ the guys on MLBN saying that this means guys like Frazier, Robertson and Avisail will be sold off  Will someone please take Avisail from us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Amsinger and Derosa clowning the Nats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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