May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) This really sucks for Anaheim and for us. This has to put them into sell mode for sure. I seriously hope they didn't think they actually had any kind of chance.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) I seriously hope they didn't think they actually had any kind of chance. With Trout, they did. He was on pace for like a 12 WAR season. Any team with a player like that can be competitive with filler around him.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) With Trout, they did. He was on pace for like a 12 WAR season. Any team with a player like that can be competitive with filler around him. They were around .500 and in 8th place. There was a chance but it was minimal. One hitter doesn't really carry a team in the MLB. It's not the NBA.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (ptatc @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:22 AM) They were around .500 and in 8th place. There was a chance but it was minimal. One hitter doesn't really carry a team in the MLB. It's not the NBA. It was a small chance, but they went from having a chance to having no chance, so I guess a sort of disagree that one hitter can't carry a team. It certainly requires a special sort of talent, but Trout is that special sort of talent, and he's the only guy in the MLB that I would say can do something like that.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) I seriously hope they didn't think they actually had any kind of chance. Arte Moreno isn't much for selling.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) Arte Moreno isn't much for selling. Wasn't this the entire point of your post? That Trout's injury would now lead to them selling?
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ May 31, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Wasn't this the entire point of your post? That Trout's injury would now lead to them selling? Absolutely. And with a healthy Trout, there was no way they did. Now there is actually a chance.
May 31, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) Absolutely. And with a healthy Trout, there was no way they did. Now there is actually a chance. They really have very little to sell. They are the least of our concerns.
May 31, 20178 yr Author QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) With Trout, they did. He was on pace for like a 12 WAR season. Any team with a player like that can be competitive with filler around him. Yet Trout has one playoff appearance in 5 full seasons
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June 1, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 31, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) Yet Trout has one playoff appearance in 5 full seasons The 2012 Angels went 89-73, which was good for the 6th best record in the AL. However, the Detroit Tigers, at 88-74, did make the postseason, as the 7th best team in the AL, narrowly edging our White Sox, who went 85-77. The 2013 Angels went 78-84, finishing 16 games behind the division winning Oakland Athletics. Mike Trout put up 10.5 fWAR that year. His fellow offensive teammates - those who had positive WARs - combined for 16.5. Outside of Mike Trout, they averaged about 1 WAR a piece. I said you could win if you had decent players. LeBron James wouldn't win with 4 Jo Jo English's surrounding him. BTW, JB Shuck received 478 plate appearances that season. He accrued 0.5 WAR. The 2014 Angels won 98 games, Mike Trout was a total bust in the playoffs (if I remember), and they ran into the buzzsaw that was the Kansas City Royals. That still does not sound right. Ironically, 2014 was the "worst" season of Mike Trout's career. He was worth 7.9 fWAR. The 2015 Angels went 85-77. Mike Trout was worth 9 WAR. His fellow offensive teammates - again, those with positive fWARs - combined for 13.3. For comparison, in what was one of the worst offensive teams I've ever seen, the positive contributors to WAR for the 2015 White Sox combined for 10.4 WAR. The 2016 Angels went 74-88. Mike Trout was worth 9.4 WAR, but this was the first season you could say that they were really bad. The offensive backed it up - positive contributors combined for a majestic 14.2 WAR. The Angels pitching staff contributed 5.9 WAR. The whole staff. Chris Sale was worth 5.2. Clayton Kershaw was worth 6.5 in 149 innings. The Angels combined for 5.9 in 1421.1 innings. The Angels have not done a good job of surrounding Mike Trout with talent. Yes, it is harder for find league average players in the major leagues, but for god's sake, there has been f***-all surrounding Mike Trout. I would give Mike Trout a 10 year, $500 million contract and never think twice.
June 1, 20178 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:28 PM) I would give Mike Trout a 10 year, $500 million contract and never think twice. You are one rich man.
June 1, 20178 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) You are one rich man. Why thank you, here is a $10 token.
June 1, 20178 yr BITCOIN? Josh Hamilton, Pujols, Nolasco, Garrett Richards (injured) and Huston Street are really soaking up a ton of payroll. That's $80 million just for 2017 alone (those five), and that's not counting another $20 million for Trout. Which is why their payroll is around $150 million, with very few places to cut. Edited June 1, 20178 yr by caulfield12
June 1, 20178 yr Interleague so far- AL-60 NL-40 AL East 30-16 AL Cent 6-13 AL West 24-11 NL East 14-24 NL Cent 13-25 NL West 13-11
June 2, 20178 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:28 PM) The 2012 Angels went 89-73, which was good for the 6th best record in the AL. However, the Detroit Tigers, at 88-74, did make the postseason, as the 7th best team in the AL, narrowly edging our White Sox, who went 85-77. The 2013 Angels went 78-84, finishing 16 games behind the division winning Oakland Athletics. Mike Trout put up 10.5 fWAR that year. His fellow offensive teammates - those who had positive WARs - combined for 16.5. Outside of Mike Trout, they averaged about 1 WAR a piece. I said you could win if you had decent players. LeBron James wouldn't win with 4 Jo Jo English's surrounding him. BTW, JB Shuck received 478 plate appearances that season. He accrued 0.5 WAR. The 2014 Angels won 98 games, Mike Trout was a total bust in the playoffs (if I remember), and they ran into the buzzsaw that was the Kansas City Royals. That still does not sound right. Ironically, 2014 was the "worst" season of Mike Trout's career. He was worth 7.9 fWAR. The 2015 Angels went 85-77. Mike Trout was worth 9 WAR. His fellow offensive teammates - again, those with positive fWARs - combined for 13.3. For comparison, in what was one of the worst offensive teams I've ever seen, the positive contributors to WAR for the 2015 White Sox combined for 10.4 WAR. The 2016 Angels went 74-88. Mike Trout was worth 9.4 WAR, but this was the first season you could say that they were really bad. The offensive backed it up - positive contributors combined for a majestic 14.2 WAR. The Angels pitching staff contributed 5.9 WAR. The whole staff. Chris Sale was worth 5.2. Clayton Kershaw was worth 6.5 in 149 innings. The Angels combined for 5.9 in 1421.1 innings. The Angels have not done a good job of surrounding Mike Trout with talent. Yes, it is harder for find league average players in the major leagues, but for god's sake, there has been f***-all surrounding Mike Trout. I would give Mike Trout a 10 year, $500 million contract and never think twice. The union would love you for an owner.
June 2, 20178 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:37 AM) BITCOIN? Josh Hamilton, Pujols, Nolasco, Garrett Richards (injured) and Huston Street are really soaking up a ton of payroll. That's $80 million just for 2017 alone (those five), and that's not counting another $20 million for Trout. Which is why their payroll is around $150 million, with very few places to cut. Woah! you mean buying the best FA doesn't routinely win you a spot in the playoffs. How can that be? i thought only the cheap owners didn't routinely make the playoffs.
June 2, 20178 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:28 PM) The 2012 Angels went 89-73, which was good for the 6th best record in the AL. However, the Detroit Tigers, at 88-74, did make the postseason, as the 7th best team in the AL, narrowly edging our White Sox, who went 85-77. The 2013 Angels went 78-84, finishing 16 games behind the division winning Oakland Athletics. Mike Trout put up 10.5 fWAR that year. His fellow offensive teammates - those who had positive WARs - combined for 16.5. Outside of Mike Trout, they averaged about 1 WAR a piece. I said you could win if you had decent players. LeBron James wouldn't win with 4 Jo Jo English's surrounding him. BTW, JB Shuck received 478 plate appearances that season. He accrued 0.5 WAR. The 2014 Angels won 98 games, Mike Trout was a total bust in the playoffs (if I remember), and they ran into the buzzsaw that was the Kansas City Royals. That still does not sound right. Ironically, 2014 was the "worst" season of Mike Trout's career. He was worth 7.9 fWAR. The 2015 Angels went 85-77. Mike Trout was worth 9 WAR. His fellow offensive teammates - again, those with positive fWARs - combined for 13.3. For comparison, in what was one of the worst offensive teams I've ever seen, the positive contributors to WAR for the 2015 White Sox combined for 10.4 WAR. The 2016 Angels went 74-88. Mike Trout was worth 9.4 WAR, but this was the first season you could say that they were really bad. The offensive backed it up - positive contributors combined for a majestic 14.2 WAR. The Angels pitching staff contributed 5.9 WAR. The whole staff. Chris Sale was worth 5.2. Clayton Kershaw was worth 6.5 in 149 innings. The Angels combined for 5.9 in 1421.1 innings. The Angels have not done a good job of surrounding Mike Trout with talent. Yes, it is harder for find league average players in the major leagues, but for god's sake, there has been f***-all surrounding Mike Trout. I would give Mike Trout a 10 year, $500 million contract and never think twice. I don't think his comment was meaning to be derogatory towards Mike Trout. I believe it was meant to be derogatory towards the Angels.
June 2, 20178 yr QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 08:06 PM) Mike Trout is Mickey Mantle. No reason to overthink it. Lots of betting pools taking money on whether Trout can STILL lead MLB in WAR despite missing around 6 weeks of the season.
June 4, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 01:21 AM) Apparently the '29 Yankees are back together again in the Bronx They hit absolute bombs
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