Chisoxfn Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 10:42 AM) Why would anyone hire that bum? Honestly...if I were the Browns, it would be a bad hire. He can stabilize the culture, etc. He won't be great, but getting them to mediocre and embedding a culture change would bring value to the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I dunno guys. 8-8 is a step in the right direction for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) Honestly...if I were the Browns, it would be a bad hire. He can stabilize the culture, etc. He won't be great, but getting them to mediocre and embedding a culture change would bring value to the Browns. I'd be pissed as hell as a Browns fan if they went out of their way to get a guy whose ceiling is mediocrity. Just look at the Rams who hired a young coach with charisma and knows their Xs and Os. Why wouldn't you try to emulate that instead of rehashing another washed up coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 01:12 PM) I'd be pissed as hell as a Browns fan if they went out of their way to get a guy whose ceiling is mediocrity. Just look at the Rams who hired a young coach with charisma and knows their Xs and Os. Why wouldn't you try to emulate that instead of rehashing another washed up coach? For a team that has won one game in two seasons, mediocrity is a damned good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Browns are probably going QB with the first overall pick. Jeff Fisher is about the last coach I want with a young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Kyle Long was in pretty bad shape when they shut him down. He just had neck surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) Honestly...if I were the Browns, it would be a bad hire. He can stabilize the culture, etc. He won't be great, but getting them to mediocre and embedding a culture change would bring value to the Browns. Isn't this what everyone said about Fox when he was hired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 07:59 AM) Kyle Long was in pretty bad shape when they shut him down. He just had neck surgery That explains some of the shoulder issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 07:59 AM) Kyle Long was in pretty bad shape when they shut him down. He just had neck surgery And still has 2 more surgeries to go. Reminds me alot of Tommie Harris. Potential hall of fame type player who might/will be ruined by injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 08:22 AM) That explains some of the shoulder issues. The way he just explained it on twitter, the shoulder issue led to the neck issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) And still has 2 more surgeries to go. Reminds me alot of Tommie Harris. Potential hall of fame type player who might/will be ruined by injuries. This is what I am starting to think. We will see after he gets the other two, but it seems he is shutdown for some injury every season now. Some people just seem susceptible to injuries, even the freak ones, more than others. At some point, there has to be a limit on how many repairs to a body surgeons can make and still have that player be anywhere near optimal ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Tommie Harris's career was really ruined by one injury, his hamstring tore off the bone. He never regained the explosion that made him special. Hopefully Kyle Long can get this neck and shoulder issue fixed (i believe the third injury is the hand/fingers that was broken), have extra time to let his ankle heal and come back ready to go next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 06:20 AM) Isn't this what everyone said about Fox when he was hired? I don't think the Bears are that far away. And I do think they have drastically improved / enhanced their culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) I don't think the Bears are that far away. And I do think they have drastically improved / enhanced their culture. They need offensive line help, skill position help, pash rushers, maybe another DB or 2. Probably a kicker. There are still a lot of holes. Trubisky developing though can make up for being short in other areas. And in the NFL, if you play your cards right, you are only 2 years away from the playoffs at your lowest point. Edited December 20, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 JJ StankevitzVerified account @JJStankevitz 2m2 minutes ago Kyle Long's neck surgery yesterday was on a herniated disc, John Fox says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Patrick FinleyVerified account @patrickfinley 60m60 minutes ago #Bears announce the Jordan Howard, Kyle Long (IR), Tarik Cohen and Akiem Hicks are Pro Bowl alternates. Cohen and Long are 2nd alternates. Hicks is a fourth alternate — which is a crime. They didn't specify on Howard, but he sounds like a 1st or 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Chris EmmaVerified account @CEmma670 55m55 minutes ago Kyle Fuller is second in the NFL with 22 pass break-ups after recording six plus a pick against the Browns. He had previously 19 PBUs before this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Hub Arkush @Hub_Arkush ICYMI, @PFWeekly has learned the #Cardinals and Bruce Arians will part ways next week— increasing odds Larry Fitzgerald retires rather than returning for 15th season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Field YatesVerified account @FieldYates Source: former Steelers LB James Harrison is at Gillette Stadium visiting the Patriots today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) Field YatesVerified account @FieldYates Source: former Steelers LB James Harrison is at Gillette Stadium visiting the Patriots today. The least surprising news of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 JJ StankevitzVerified account @JJStankevitz 28m28 minutes ago Your penultimate Bears injury report of the season: Bobby Massie - knee - DNP Josh Sitton - ankle - DNP Adam Shaheen - chest = limited Bradley Sowell - back full DeAndre Houston-Carson - back - limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Davante Adams got paid! So much for the bears signing him this off-season. @AdamSchefter More details on Davante Adams' new 4-year deal with the Packers: Deal is worth $58.75 million, including $18 million signing bonus and includes $32 million in the first two years, per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 03:58 PM) Davante Adams got paid! So much for the bears signing him this off-season. @AdamSchefter More details on Davante Adams' new 4-year deal with the Packers: Deal is worth $58.75 million, including $18 million signing bonus and includes $32 million in the first two years, per source. Landry, Robinson, Lee, Richardson, and Watkins are all good options still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) Landry, Robinson, Lee, Richardson, and Watkins are all good options still Ideally on the FA market you sign your #2 and #3 receivers. Your first round draft pick should be the best receiver available, and you should consider another receiver in round 3 or 4 with where this roster is. If some of that works out, by 2020 you've fully rebuilt this corps, but it's going to take time and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 10:45 PM) Ideally on the FA market you sign your #2 and #3 receivers. Your first round draft pick should be the best receiver available, and you should consider another receiver in round 3 or 4 with where this roster is. If some of that works out, by 2020 you've fully rebuilt this corps, but it's going to take time and coaching. You don't need THAT many WR's. Sign one of those FA guys, draft a Will Fuller type burner in the draft (preferably later round) and let Meredith (who alot of us, including the Bears, like alot) come back and be a #2 type. I wouldn't be opposed to resigning Wright and have him be your #4 either, depending on what people think of Kevin White ever being healthy.. Bears really need to protect Mitch. Gotta get OL addressed as well as help for Floyd at DE. Probably CB with one of Fuller and/or Prince walking and LB. We need OL, DE, CB with WR of course and then hope Shaheen takes a big step next season. Edited December 30, 2017 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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