Brewers Acquire Christian Yelich & sign Lorenzo Cain

[caulfield12]

Wouldn't mind taking a chance on Thames if we're going to dump Avi, Abreu or both.

18:$5M, 19:$6M, 20:$7.5M club option ($1M buyout)

 

We'd have him for 2018 and 2019. That said, it's highly unlikely because those at-bats will go to the likes of Davidson, Delmonico, etc.

 

Thames would be 33 at the end of 2019, and he's already a pretty big dude.

 

 

 

What pitcher/s would you be willing to trade for Domingo Santana?

 

He can't play with Braun, Cain and Yelich, unless they dump Thames and make Braun the DH.

Edited January 26, 2018 by caulfield12

[GreenSox]

Another way to look at it for the Brewers is that they turned Jean Segura and a broken Lucroy into Yelich.

[Balta1701]

Reading the Twitter responses to the Brewers announcement, brought back some great prospect names. Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta. I think LaPorta was in the CC trade, he was supposed to be a beast, he did completely nothing.

To directly quote the piece that popped up when I googled it because there was one name you're missing:

"and throw-in center fielder, Michael Brantley."

[caulfield12]

http://thebiglead.com/2018/01/25/christian...-lewis-brinson/

 

Argues that Brewers overpaid for Yelich

 

Maybe I’m wrong in the long run, but it seems like the Brewers gave up too much for Yelich, especially given the depth at outfield they already have within the organization and their pursuit of free agent Lorenzo Cain. It seems like developing from within and signing Cain as a stopgap would have been the better strategy.

 

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/brew...byzsg8z5fxSy.97

Baseball America Analysis

Edited January 26, 2018 by caulfield12

[caulfield12]

To directly quote the piece that popped up when I googled it because there was one name you're missing:

"and throw-in center fielder, Michael Brantley."

 

Excellent scouting by the Brewers and Indians to take a 7th rounder to near-MVP status.

Not so good on Gamel or LaFatta.

 

 

Let's not forget the Brewers were the ones who originally found Cain (in Georgia) and Alcides Escobar as well.

Edited January 26, 2018 by caulfield12

[jenksycat]

Wouldn't mind taking a chance on Thames if we're going to dump Avi, Abreu or both.

18:$5M, 19:$6M, 20:$7.5M club option ($1M buyout)

 

We'd have him for 2018 and 2019. That said, it's highly unlikely because those at-bats will go to the likes of Davidson, Delmonico, etc.

 

Thames would be 33 at the end of 2019, and he's already a pretty big dude.

 

 

 

What pitcher/s would you be willing to trade for Domingo Santana?

 

He can't play with Braun, Cain and Yelich, unless they dump Thames and make Braun the DH.

 

They move to the AL too?

[fathom]

Brewers insider claiming they are working on two trades. Santana to an AL team tomorrow and one other.

Edited January 26, 2018 by fathom

[BlackSox13]

Brewers insider claiming they are working on two trades. Santana to an AL team tomorrow and one other.

Wonder if the Brewers try to get Kipnis with Salazar.

[Chicago White Sox]

Brewers insider claiming they are working on two trades. Santana to an AL team tomorrow and one other.

These moves also validate Crasnick’s tweet, which means we’ve been talking with the Brewers about something.

 

Sanchez still makes the most sense for them IMO, but Brewers fans seem enamored with Abreu anchoring their lineup. I still think there may be some smoke here. Maybe something happens this weekend and it gets announced during SoxFest.

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

Brewers insider claiming they are working on two trades. Santana to an AL team tomorrow and one other.

 

I wonder if they are targeting Harrison on the Pirates for their hole at 2B.

[username]

I think Yolmer actually makes a ton of sense. The brewers insider mentioned the second trade is a smaller one. I’m also just guessing that the Brewers would prefer to get a cost-controlled guy like Yolmer over paying Harrison or Kipnis $10 million a year.

[Dam8610]

These moves also validate Crasnick’s tweet, which means we’ve been talking with the Brewers about something.

 

Sanchez still makes the most sense for them IMO, but Brewers fans seem enamored with Abreu anchoring their lineup. I still think there may be some smoke here. Maybe something happens this weekend and it gets announced during SoxFest.

 

They traded Brinson. Their farm isn't deep enough for them to get Abreu now.

[caulfield12]

They traded Brinson. Their farm isn't deep enough for them to get Abreu now.

 

The White Sox would definitely have interest in Domingo Santana, as well as Keon Broxton, who has no place to play now unless someone gets injured, same with Phillips. Corey Ray would be another possibility, with his Chicago ties, along with Erceg. That's at least 5 players (I'm assuming we're not going to trade for MORE pitching).

 

I think most of SoxTalk would be elated to acquire Keston Hiura for Abreu, although where he would play (DH/2B, possibly 3B or LF) is another question altogether.

 

1. Lewis Brinson, OF XXX
2. Brandon Woodruff, RHP
3. Corbin Burnes, RHP
4. Keston Hiura, 2B
5. Monte Harrison, OF XXX
6. Luis Ortiz, RHP
7. Brett Phillips, OF
8. Lucas Erceg, 3B
9. Isan Diaz, 2B/SS XXX
10. Corey Ray, OF

BA Top 10 list for 2018 Edited January 26, 2018 by caulfield12

[hi8is]

The White Sox would definitely have interest in Domingo Santana, as well as Keon Broxton, who has no place to play now unless someone gets injured, same with Phillips. Corey Ray would be another possibility, with his Chicago ties, along with Erceg. That's at least 5 players (I'm assuming we're not going to trade for MORE pitching).

 

I think most of SoxTalk would be elated to acquire Keston Hiura for Abreu, although where he would play (DH/2B, possibly 3B or LF) is another question altogether.

 

1. Lewis Brinson, OF XXX
2. Brandon Woodruff, RHP
3. Corbin Burnes, RHP
4. Keston Hiura, 2B
5. Monte Harrison, OF XXX
6. Luis Ortiz, RHP
7. Brett Phillips, OF
8. Lucas Erceg, 3B
9. Isan Diaz, 2B/SS XXX
10. Corey Ray, OF

BA Top 10 list for 2018

Pretty insane that Ray was their 10th best prospect... did he have a bad 2017 or something?

 

[greg775]

Royals fans would fit in well on this board. They are thrilled to lose Cain. Why do so many of you favor management so much? My gosh you want these owners to make sooooo much money.

Royals fans are saying Cain isn't worth the money and five years is too many and they are thrilled they get a compensation pick. I don't know why people have the deep down desire to tank and sign as many unknown players as they can. You know a lot of unknowns bust. Take the Royals. Bubba Starling was a top pick. He flopped. Also that infielder who they got rid of, Christian Colon, was a can't miss high draft pick bust.

 

I agree with Boras. Baseball has been ruined by the tank mentality. Very few teams want to win. Sad. And fans are backing the teams on this. They don't want players like Cain cause they make a few bucks too many. Yeah right. Cry me a river for the poor owners.

Edited January 26, 2018 by greg775

[Dam8610]

The White Sox would definitely have interest in Domingo Santana, as well as Keon Broxton, who has no place to play now unless someone gets injured, same with Phillips. Corey Ray would be another possibility, with his Chicago ties, along with Erceg. That's at least 5 players (I'm assuming we're not going to trade for MORE pitching).

 

I think most of SoxTalk would be elated to acquire Keston Hiura for Abreu, although where he would play (DH/2B, possibly 3B or LF) is another question altogether.

 

1. Lewis Brinson, OF XXX
2. Brandon Woodruff, RHP
3. Corbin Burnes, RHP
4. Keston Hiura, 2B
5. Monte Harrison, OF XXX
6. Luis Ortiz, RHP
7. Brett Phillips, OF
8. Lucas Erceg, 3B
9. Isan Diaz, 2B/SS XXX
10. Corey Ray, OF

BA Top 10 list for 2018

 

No interest in Santana or Broxton personally, and I was probably Hiura's biggest fan pre-draft, but he's not a good enough centerpiece for Abreu. I'd've wanted Brinson, Hiura, and a lottery ticket at least for Abreu, and they just don't have that value in their system now.

[GenericUserName]

Pretty insane that Ray was their 10th best prospect... did he have a bad 2017 or something?

Just in case this isn't being sarcastic, last year he slashed .238/.311/.367 with a K rate ~31% as a 22 year old in advanced A ball.

Edited January 26, 2018 by GenericUserName

[hi8is]

Just in case this isn't being sarcastic, last year he slashed .238/.311/.367 with a K rate ~35% as a 22 year old in advanced A ball.

I hadn't kept up with him is all... so wasn't aware he struggled. Bummer, hope he turns it around - seemed like a good kid.

[GenericUserName]

I hadn't kept up with him is all... so wasn't aware he struggled. Bummer, hope he turns it around - seemed like a good kid.

He's the type I would be willing to buy low on because he does have the tools, but you know if you take him that he is a project and not someone who just has small things to work on.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

The insider on Brewerfan.net who gave Yelich to Brewers a "95% chance" of happening a few days ago, and has broken other trades, says Domingo Santana will be traded to an AL team, possibly as early as tomorrow. And also says there is another smaller trade in the works besides the Santana trade.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Speaking of Santana, I had no idea he hit 30 HR last year.

 

 

The dude hit a ton of opposite field HR last year, and DEEP opposite, and pole-hugging even. According to statcast, he hit 10 HR to dead RF. He hit another 4 to RCF. And then another 2 just to the right of dead CF. So technically, he hit 16 of his 30 HR oppo last year.

[Bob Sacamano]

Speaking of Santana, I had no idea he hit 30 HR last year.

 

 

The dude hit a ton of opposite field HR last year, and DEEP opposite, and pole-hugging even. According to statcast, he hit 10 HR to dead RF. He hit another 4 to RCF. And then another 2 just to the right of dead CF. So technically, he hit 16 of his 30 HR oppo last year.

 

Yep. He was a great add in fantasy.

[Chicago White Sox]

He's the type I would be willing to buy low on because he does have the tools, but you know if you take him that he is a project and not someone who just has small things to work on.

The problem for us is diminishing returns. We really don’t have a spot for him in our A ball OF.

[GreenSox]

The White Sox would definitely have interest in Domingo Santana, as well as Keon Broxton, who has no place to play now unless someone gets injured, same with Phillips. Corey Ray would be another possibility, with his Chicago ties, along with Erceg. That's at least 5 players (I'm assuming we're not going to trade for MORE pitching).

 

I think most of SoxTalk would be elated to acquire Keston Hiura for Abreu, although where he would play (DH/2B, possibly 3B or LF) is another question altogether.

I wouldn't think the Sox would be interested in Santana unless he can play a good 1B and they move Abreu. They just can't put a defender like that in the OF this early in the buildup. He might actually be an interesting pickup for Boston.

Broxton might be palatable on the buy-low side.

As for moving Yolmer, perhaps, but the Sox aren't exactly loaded with Middle Infield prospects (or 3B for that matter).

[caulfield12]

I wouldn't think the Sox would be interested in Santana unless he can play a good 1B and they move Abreu. They just can't put a defender like that in the OF this early in the buildup. He might actually be an interesting pickup for Boston.

Broxton might be palatable on the buy-low side.

As for moving Yolmer, perhaps, but the Sox aren't exactly loaded with Middle Infield prospects (or 3B for that matter).

 

 

He’s basically another version of Avi, but with more proven power.

 

A bit out of date...

Santana has primarily played right field in the major leagues, starting there in 508 of 592 games. Santana is a big guy, standing at 6'5" and 225 pounds, which fits his power. Right now, however, it's difficult to see where he might fit on the Brewers barring more deals. He's not a center fielder and right field is occupied by Ryan Braun and the Brewers have a somewhat similar player in Khris Davis in left field. Dominguez has never played first base so it's unlikely the Brewers would try to move him there.

 

But the Brewers don't need to fit him in right away. They can always see what happens the rest of this season and next spring and see if/when he's deserving of another shot at the big leagues. Santana has a strong enough arm for right field if that's where he lands. His defense isn't anything to write home about, but it's not bad either.

Brewcrewball.com

Edited January 26, 2018 by caulfield12