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White Sox sign Miguel Gonzalez

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:28 AM)
Shields could be dropped to the pen also and no one would be mad.

 

Heck, with a rotation that young I wouldn't mind going to a 6 man rotation for a few weeks either if the roster could take it.

I read where Shields was in line to start on Opening Day. Probably the worst opening day starter the White Sox have thrown out their since Jaime Navarro.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:28 AM)
Shields could be dropped to the pen also and no one would be mad.

 

Heck, with a rotation that young I wouldn't mind going to a 6 man rotation for a few weeks either if the roster could take it.

 

I'm sure they will at times just to help the young arms and give more rest.

No issue with this move. Possible trade candidate in July.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:07 AM)
Love it. Happy to see Miguel back on the south side. Hopefully this means Covey becomes the long relief arm in the pen.

 

 

I'd be surprised if Covey is on the opening day roster actually

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:29 AM)
I read where Shields was in line to start on Opening Day. Probably the worst opening day starter the White Sox have thrown out their since Jaime Navarro.

 

Don't sell Samardzija short!

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 12:10 PM)
Pardon my ignorance, but can he be cut since he was a Rule 5 last year? I'm not sure how that works.

 

I believe that Rule 5 guys just need to stay on the active roster for the first year. After that, they become just like any other player, subject to the standard contract/options/service time/etc.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 12:21 PM)
So the rotation on opening day is shaped up to be: Giolito, Lopez, Fulmer, Gonzalez, Shields (no specific order)?

 

Yep they need to bring in at least one more guy.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this is our last big move until we grab some remaining vet pitchers on minor league deals right before spring training.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:32 PM)
Yep they need to bring in at least one more guy.

Why? Rodon and Kopech figure to be in the plans too. That's 7 total starters. After this signing, we have enough depth

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 09:29 AM)
I read where Shields was in line to start on Opening Day. Probably the worst opening day starter the White Sox have thrown out their since Jaime Navarro.

I was one of the biggest opponents of the Shields trade and agree with your sentiment but I will also say this... I think he will surprise us all in 2018.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 05:29 PM)
I read where Shields was in line to start on Opening Day. Probably the worst opening day starter the White Sox have thrown out their since Jaime Navarro.

Miguel is OK by me. How were his peripherals before I decide whether he's good or not. I don't despise him or anything. As far as Shields/Opening Day. Geez. If he pitches Opening Day it's telling the world and our fans: "The White Sox wish to tank one more season. Please bear with us as we tank. And please enjoy your 25 dollar parking and 10 dollar beer. We are allowed to charge that while giving you James Shields one more season before we get good. That is all."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 12:28 PM)
Shields could be dropped to the pen also and no one would be mad.

 

Heck, with a rotation that young I wouldn't mind going to a 6 man rotation for a few weeks either if the roster could take it.

True. I also suppose Fulmer would also be a bullpen candidate depending on his early starting performances.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:41 PM)
Miguel is OK by me. How were his peripherals before I decide whether he's good or not. I don't despise him or anything. As far as Shields/Opening Day. Geez. If he pitches Opening Day it's telling the world and our fans: "The White Sox wish to tank one more season. Please bear with us as we tank. And please enjoy your 25 dollar parking and 10 dollar beer. We are allowed to charge that while giving you James Shields one more season before we get good. That is all."

 

The order of the rotation doesn't matter. It's probably a good business move to have him start opening day on a Thursday since the other 2 games on Saturday and Sunday could be Giolito and Lopez games that may draw some fans (though it is early April).

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:40 PM)
Why? Rodon and Kopech figure to be in the plans too. That's 7 total starters. After this signing, we have enough depth

 

Doesn't hurt to bring in a veteran on a minor league deal to compete with Fulmer for a spot.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:41 PM)
Miguel is OK by me. How were his peripherals before I decide whether he's good or not. I don't despise him or anything. As far as Shields/Opening Day. Geez. If he pitches Opening Day it's telling the world and our fans: "The White Sox wish to tank one more season. Please bear with us as we tank. And please enjoy your 25 dollar parking and 10 dollar beer. We are allowed to charge that while giving you James Shields one more season before we get good. That is all."

 

And you wonder why people think you're a troll. Stop trolling, and maybe people will stop calling you a troll.

 

And FYI his peripherals aren't very good, which is why he's a 5th starter on a one year 4.5 million dollar deal.

 

Best case the Sox flip him for a lotto ticket in July.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:57 PM)
And you wonder why people think you're a troll. Stop trolling, and maybe people will stop calling you a troll.

 

And FYI his peripherals aren't very good, which is why he's a 5th starter on a one year 4.5 million dollar deal.

 

Best case the Sox flip him for a lotto ticket in July.

 

Yep...just as they did in 2017.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:54 PM)
Doesn't hurt to bring in a veteran on a minor league deal to compete with Fulmer for a spot.

Who else is likely bound for the rotation at Charlotte other than Kopech?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:59 PM)
Who else is likely bound for the rotation at Charlotte other than Kopech?

 

Not really sure but also a good point. Charlotte probably also need starters.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:41 PM)
Miguel is OK by me. How were his peripherals before I decide whether he's good or not. I don't despise him or anything. As far as Shields/Opening Day. Geez. If he pitches Opening Day it's telling the world and our fans: "The White Sox wish to tank one more season. Please bear with us as we tank. And please enjoy your 25 dollar parking and 10 dollar beer. We are allowed to charge that while giving you James Shields one more season before we get good. That is all."

 

 

Greg, parking is $20. Only $10 on Sundays though.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:59 PM)
Who else is likely bound for the rotation at Charlotte other than Kopech?

 

 

Charlotte rotation:

 

1. Michael Kopech

2. Spencer Adams

3. Jordan Guerrero

4. Jordan Stephens

5.Dylan Covey

6. Tyler Danish

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:01 PM)
Greg, parking is $20. Only $10 on Sundays though.

 

Also, for the price of beer, isn't it about $12 for a 22oz beer? That doesn't seem TOO bad to me honestly. That's almost 2 cans/bottles.

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I mean most of the AA guys are gonna move up right? Kopech, Stephens Guerrero Adams.

 

Then you have danish possibly or some minor league fa

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:04 PM)
I mean most of the AA guys are gonna move up right? Kopech, Stephens Guerrero Adams.

 

Then you have danish possibly or some minor league fa

 

And possibly Covey. Is Danish mostly viewed as a reliever right now?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:04 PM)
Also, for the price of beer, isn't it about $12 for a 22oz beer? That doesn't seem TOO bad to me honestly. That's almost 2 cans/bottles.

Last year I saw a guy buy 4 PBRs and it was $35. He gave the vendor $40 and told him to keep it. I was in Jewel later that day, a 30 pack of PBRs $13.99. Supposedly Chicago sports teams get their beer cheaper than any other business. The amount of profit is absolutely crazy.

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