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Hansen and Robert updates

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Hahn on AM1000:

Robert will start hitting in 7-10 days, be in Arizona to play, and hopefully at W-S by the end of the month.

Hansen's forearm thing is "resolved". He's on a throwing program, and will throw his first bullpen in Arizona next week.

 

14 minutes ago, flavum said:

Hahn on AM1000:

Robert will start hitting in 7-10 days, be in Arizona to play, and hopefully at W-S by the end of the month.

Hansen's forearm thing is "resolved". He's on a throwing program, and will throw his first bullpen in Arizona next week.

 

Good news on both of those guys.

Robert Jimenez and Adolofo will always have injury concerns to me.

Great news on Hansen.

Great news especially with Hansen.

4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Great news especially with Hansen.

Hansen may be the key player in the system. If he really ends up being what we hope he will, the Sox could go from a good club to great.

that does sound like good news but man Roberts recovery for that seems so excessive.

3 minutes ago, bmags said:

that does sound like good news but man Roberts recovery for that seems so excessive.

It's pretty much on schedule. Ligaments take 6-8 weeks to heal enough to begin work with them. They will want to be a little conservative with the thumb UCL as gripping is not functional without it. 

This is very encouraging, as others mentioned especially with Hansen. 

Well if Rodon and Hansen can recover and pitch well this year that's a really big boost.  I'm knocking on wood.

2 hours ago, bmags said:

that does sound like good news but man Roberts recovery for that seems so excessive.

Wasn't there a rumor he had surgery on it

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

Wasn't there a rumor he had surgery on it

of course he had surgery!  pro athlete, torn thumb ligament, get that shit repaired by a great surgeon and get back in the game.

it's not a big deal at all though.  As far as injuries go this is about a 10/10 for both repair and recovery success.  As ptac said this timetable is normal and indicates no setbacks with infection or anything else.


here's the surgery and rehab procedure:

https://xnet.kp.org/socal_rehabspecialists/ptr_library/04WristandHand Region/26Hand-ThumbUlnarCollateralLigamentRepair.pdf

There was never any reason at all to worry about his recovery.  Hansen on the other hand...I was waiting for the inevitable "has scheduled tommy john" or "has scheduled exploratory surgery" or "has no timetable for his return".  It's great news that he's feeling healthy enough without intervention to start throwing.  Of course he's not out of the woods yet but this is a good first step.  Same with Rodon's progress.

Edited by chitownsportsfan

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Wasn't there a rumor he had surgery on it

He did not have surgery. I believe I read it was a grade II tear. Maybe I just assumed that from the description.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

of course he had surgery!  pro athlete, torn thumb ligament, get that shit repaired by a great surgeon and get back in the game.

it's not a big deal at all though.  As far as injuries go this is about a 10/10 for both repair and recovery success.  As ptac said this timetable is normal and indicates no setbacks with infection or anything else.


here's the surgery and rehab procedure:

https://xnet.kp.org/socal_rehabspecialists/ptr_library/04WristandHand Region/26Hand-ThumbUlnarCollateralLigamentRepair.pdf

There was never any reason at all to worry about his recovery.  Hansen on the other hand...I was waiting for the inevitable "has scheduled tommy john" or "has scheduled exploratory surgery" or "has no timetable for his return".  It's great news that he's feeling healthy enough without intervention to start throwing.  Of course he's not out of the woods yet but this is a good first step.  Same with Rodon's progress.

That is an extremely conservative protocol. It really outdated. The most recent reference is from 2003. An athlete will be back earlier than that protocol allows post-surgical. 

12 minutes ago, ptatc said:

That is an extremely conservative protocol. It really outdated. The most recent reference is from 2003. An athlete will be back earlier than that protocol allows post-surgical. 

Yea just wanted to post it as an example of how the repair usually goes.  In general it's amazing how much progress has been made in sports medicine just since 2003.  Not only with this injury but almost all of them.  My own injuries would have been handled so much more conservatively even 10 years ago and I would have probably never gotten back to where I am now without the more aggressive timetable.  After the patella tendon repairs up until about 2012 or so it was SOP to have a full leg cast for 6-8 weeks!

I was using the walker at 1 week (despite two torn tendons), was walking in the braces no walker at 2 weeks (amazed my surgeon at the two week followup) and was using the rowing machine and cycling at weeks 4-8.

It's a great time be alive if you get hurt playing sports.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Yea just wanted to post it as an example of how the repair usually goes.  In general it's amazing how much progress has been made in sports medicine just since 2003.  Not only with this injury but almost all of them.  My own injuries would have been handled so much more conservatively even 10 years ago and I would have probably never gotten back to where I am now without the more aggressive timetable.  After the patella tendon repairs up until about 2012 or so it was SOP to have a full leg cast for 6-8 weeks!

I was using the walker at 1 week (despite two torn tendons), was walking in the braces no walker at 2 weeks (amazed my surgeon at the two week followup) and was using the rowing machine and cycling at weeks 4-8.

It's a great time be alive if you get hurt playing sports.

Want to hear something really scary? In the 80's when ACL reconstructions were faitly new, we would keep them in a  cast for 12 weeks. It was no wonder it was difficult to return to sports after that injury.

We have to see what happens now with Hansen after he's thrown a few times. As mentioned he's not out of the woods yet. Remember Rodon last year had issues, came back, had issues again.

About a week ago I read that Hansen was "nowhere near ready" to start throwing.  Now all of a sudden his arm issues are mysteriously "resolved," and he's going to start throwing?  IDK what to make of this.

 

I'm hopeful, but not confident.

8 minutes ago, Donaldo said:

About a week ago I read that Hansen was "nowhere near ready" to start throwing.  Now all of a sudden his arm issues are mysteriously "resolved," and he's going to start throwing?  IDK what to make of this.

 

I'm hopeful, but not confident.

This is from the team, where as the last report was from "sources".

16 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Yea just wanted to post it as an example of how the repair usually goes.  In general it's amazing how much progress has been made in sports medicine just since 2003.  Not only with this injury but almost all of them.  My own injuries would have been handled so much more conservatively even 10 years ago and I would have probably never gotten back to where I am now without the more aggressive timetable.  After the patella tendon repairs up until about 2012 or so it was SOP to have a full leg cast for 6-8 weeks!

I was using the walker at 1 week (despite two torn tendons), was walking in the braces no walker at 2 weeks (amazed my surgeon at the two week followup) and was using the rowing machine and cycling at weeks 4-8.

It's a great time be alive if you get hurt playing sports.

Back in my day, it would have been amputation time.

10 hours ago, oldsox said:

Back in my day, it would have been amputation time.

No just rub dirt on it and get back out there.

Some Icy-Hot rubbed on it...good to go.

Unfortunately, that's about the extent of the treatment Sandy Koufax had available to him back then.

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