November 19, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, reiks12 said: True I thought they were already at the luxury tax. I guess they arent I don't think they really care much about it. They stayed under last year to likely spend this year.
November 19, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said: This move greatly increases the chances that they sign Machado. I still don’t get this line of thinking. The Yankees were always going to add two arms, with one likely being Corbin and the other being acquired via trade. They still have a great chance of landing Machado, but I’m not sure how this really changes anything.
November 19, 20187 yr Morosi says Yanks still interested in Corbin and Happ after trade and that SP is a higher priority that Machado/Harper. FWIW.
November 19, 20187 yr If this is the type of return the ms are expecting maybe we should look into Seager (or Haniger)
November 19, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Morosi says Yanks still interested in Corbin and Happ after trade and that SP is a higher priority that Machado/Harper. FWIW. Oh man if they sign Corbin then they are DEFINITELY signing manny.
November 19, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: If this is the type of return the ms are expecting maybe we should look into Seager (or Haniger) I doubt Haniger gets moved. Controllable for 4 more years and good.
November 19, 20187 yr Just now, bmags said: Oh man if they sign Corbin then they are DEFINITELY signing manny. MM will sign with whoever makes him the richest man possible. If that is the Yankees, that is who he will sign with. If that is the Reds, that is who he will sign with. Its that simple.
November 19, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: MM will sign with whoever makes him the richest man possible. If that is the Yankees, that is who he will sign with. If that is the Reds, that is who he will sign with. Its that simple. Eh really depends on how similar the offers are too.
November 19, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: MM will sign with whoever makes him the richest man possible. If that is the Yankees, that is who he will sign with. If that is the Reds, that is who he will sign with. Its that simple. I also think people are overestimating how much the Yankees are going to be willing to spend. Hicks & Gregarious combined for 9.5 WAR last year and will both be free agents after the season. Severino hits arbitration this year and Judge & Sanchez next year. Those guys combined for 12.3 WAR and will see their salaries rise significantly in the coming years. TLDR => their core is about to get very expensive. I’m not suggesting they can’t afford Machado, but I don’t anticipate them going all-out for him. I still believe the Phillies are the greater threat for Manny.
November 19, 20187 yr 55 minutes ago, bmags said: That return looks way worse than I expected Yeah only one real prospect. I wanted to trade Rodon to them but that doesn't even come close to the return
November 19, 20187 yr Jon Morosi Verified account @jonmorosi Following Following @jonmorosi More Source: #Yankees mentioned #Mariners SS Jean Segura in trade talks before decision was made to focus on Paxton alone. Segura’s inclusion in the deal would have all but eliminated Yankees as possible destination for Manny Machado. @MLB @MLBNetwork
November 20, 20187 yr 10 minutes ago, EvilJester99 said: Jon Morosi Verified account @jonmorosi Following Following @jonmorosi More Source: #Yankees mentioned #Mariners SS Jean Segura in trade talks before decision was made to focus on Paxton alone. Segura’s inclusion in the deal would have all but eliminated Yankees as possible destination for Manny Machado. @MLB @MLBNetwork Well that sucks, but if even considering Segura they must not be convinced about spending big money on Machado.
November 20, 20187 yr In the past few I have heard claims that Cease is the top pitching prospect and Elroy is the only challenger to Vlad Jr for rookie of the year. Not bad.
November 20, 20187 yr 11 minutes ago, pcq said: In the past few I have heard claims that Cease is the top pitching prospect and Elroy is the only challenger to Vlad Jr for rookie of the year. Not bad. Elroy Jetson ? Edited November 20, 20187 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
November 20, 20187 yr 50 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I also think people are overestimating how much the Yankees are going to be willing to spend. Hicks & Gregarious combined for 9.5 WAR last year and will both be free agents after the season. Severino hits arbitration this year and Judge & Sanchez next year. Those guys combined for 12.3 WAR and will see their salaries rise significantly in the coming years. TLDR => their core is about to get very expensive. I’m not suggesting they can’t afford Machado, but I don’t anticipate them going all-out for him. I still believe the Phillies are the greater threat for Manny. I think you're underestimating the Yankees. This is a team that has paid the luxury tax every single year of it's existence except 1. Right now, they have ~$165 million under contract - they need 2 big signings just to bring them back up to the tax level. And while their arb costs are going to be high, at the end of 2020 the contracts for Ellsbury and Tanaka end, so even with guys hitting arbitration, their payroll goes down rather than up. Their commits are about $120-$130 million for 2019, 2020, and 2021, including arbitration for guys. The tax level will be about $210 million for the next several years, and their revenue has continued going up. They could buy 3 $25 mil/year players this year without really taxing themselves.
November 20, 20187 yr Exactly. He needs a more distinguished name and he is playing in my country now.
November 20, 20187 yr Author 17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Elroy Jetson ? Damn you beat me to it! That's exactly who I thought of when I saw that too.
November 20, 20187 yr 23 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think you're underestimating the Yankees. This is a team that has paid the luxury tax every single year of it's existence except 1. Right now, they have ~$165 million under contract - they need 2 big signings just to bring them back up to the tax level. And while their arb costs are going to be high, at the end of 2020 the contracts for Ellsbury and Tanaka end, so even with guys hitting arbitration, their payroll goes down rather than up. Their commits are about $120-$130 million for 2019, 2020, and 2021, including arbitration for guys. The tax level will be about $210 million for the next several years, and their revenue has continued going up. They could buy 3 $25 mil/year players this year without really taxing themselves. What they have available today is not what they’ll have available tomorrow. There is no doubt they can afford Machado right now, but in the coming years adding him eats up some of their flexibility. I already called out Hicks & Gregorius being free agents after this coming season. I assume you just ignored these guys & their 9.5 fWAR in your future payroll assessment. Also, the arbitration estimates beyond 2019 are simply based on averages and do not reflect what young stars like Judge, Sanchez, & Servino will actually earn. And Tanaka falling off the payroll means another hole to fill. The same applies to Paxton unless they are able to retain him at signficanth bigger dollars. You are making their financial situation look much better than it really is. That doesn’t mean Machado is a no-go, but they may not be eager to sign a 3B with character concerns to one of the largest contracts in baseball history given these financial considerations in addition to the fact they have a cheap, controllable 3B already in place.
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