December 11, 20187 yr We could also just sign Grandal and then trade him when Collins proves he is ready and then we don't have to deal with a struggling catcher during a time we all hope we are competitive, and if his bat is too good to keep down he can DH and sparingly play catcher.
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: So the plan is to bring Grandal in to mentor Collins at catcher, then move Collins to 1b because Grandal is the everyday catcher, right? With Collins being used as a 3rd catcher?
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, Swingandalongonetoleft said: Is Grandal related to or good friends with Harper/Machado? Already looked to see if there was a Manny connection, and it doesn't appear so
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, Swingandalongonetoleft said: Is Grandal related to or good friends with Harper/Machado? Former teammate of Machado! Perfect!
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, fathom said: Already looked to see if there was a Manny connection, and it doesn't appear so How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together.
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: With Collins being used as a 3rd catcher? don't count your chickens before they hatch. Castillo is gone after next year, who knows what Seby is.
December 11, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So the plan is to bring Grandal in to mentor Collins at catcher, then move Collins to 1b because Grandal is the everyday catcher, right? One thing it shows is Grandal doesn't appear to have a future coaching catchers.
December 11, 20187 yr 10 minutes ago, OmarComing25 said: I don't see why signing Grandal would affect going after Harper/Machado. 100%, a Grandal addition should be considered on its own merits outside of Harper & Machado.
December 11, 20187 yr Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week.
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together. True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball.
December 11, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together. sorry, meant significant friendship due to growing up in Florida, etc. Manny's closest friends appear to be Schoop, Alonso, Almora and J. Jay
December 11, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: True. I believe Grandal had White Sox written all over him as soon as he hit FA. In all fairness there are about 25 teams that could use Grandal, 20 of which are closer to the playoffs than the White Sox.
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball. He just had a bad game or two defensively. If that caused his market to collapse, then good for the Sox.
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball. You do know he is one of the better defensive catchers.......
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week. Maybe the Sox should trade Collins if there's anyone left that actually thinks he's a catcher.
December 11, 20187 yr Also, collegiate gold glove catcher, Langeliers, could be in the mix in 2-3 years.
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, fathom said: He just had a bad game or two defensively. If that caused his market to collapse, then good for the Sox. Seriously, if we can get a good discount because teams overreacted to one series then I'm all for it.
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: Maybe the Sox should trade Collins if there's anyone left that actually thinks he's a catcher. If the Sox add Grandal, it reflects they don’t believe Collins is likely to stick there. Personally, I think this type of move makes a ton of sense if that’s the case.
December 11, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week. The idea of a guy catching 1 or 2 times per week really doesn't hold together in modern baseball. If you're giving up on the idea of the guy as an everyday catcher, it's because either you think his bat plays elsewhere and you're not going to catch him because you want him to stay healthy, or you're deciding he's just not a good enough catcher so you're making him a backup. A guy can't prepare to hit regular pitching every day and then just pick up "being a catcher" as a hobby. There's just too much work and preparation involved for the catcher's spot. You can call the guy your emergency catcher, that's ok, but if he's your everyday 1b, he's not a part time catcher.
December 11, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: You do know he is one of the better defensive catchers....... I had no idea. Is that based on metrics?
December 11, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: If the Sox add Grandal, it reflects they don’t believe Collins is likely to stick there. Personally, I think this type of move makes a ton of sense if that’s the case. Castillo is under contract for just one more season. I think Collins could be used behind the plate every now and then. Someone mentioned like Gattis. That seems pretty plausible. Besides, Sox catchers usually get hurt, so who knows. By May 1st, Collins may be the starter.
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, Balta1701 said: The idea of a guy catching 1 or 2 times per week really doesn't hold together in modern baseball. If you're giving up on the idea of the guy as an everyday catcher, it's because either you think his bat plays elsewhere and you're not going to catch him because you want him to stay healthy, or you're deciding he's just not a good enough catcher so you're making him a backup. A guy can't prepare to hit regular pitching every day and then just pick up "being a catcher" as a hobby. You can call the guy your emergency catcher, that's ok, but if he's your everyday 1b, he's not a part time catcher. I don't follow. Catchers don't prepare to hit? Cubs have done this as recently as two years ago.
December 11, 20187 yr Just now, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: I had no idea. Is that based on metrics? Yes, the advance stats have generally liked Grandal (of course, they don't include last postseason).
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