February 28, 20197 yr Just now, Eminor3rd said: Machado and Harper signed for $300m and $330m respectively, with one opt-out combined between them. Neither AAV sets a record. And the White Sox didn’t get either of them. The White Sox have a total of $15m committed to next year’s payroll. Hey that's money they need to spend 8 years from now
February 28, 20197 yr Being out on Bryce after getting your ass handed to you in the Machado sweepstakes just adds further embarrassment to an already pathetic situation. Fuck the White Sox. Go Eloy, go Yoan, go all of you young guys. The only way the FO can win me back is if they win a World Series. Until then, fuck all of them.
February 28, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said: Machado and Harper signed for $300m and $330m respectively, with one opt-out combined between them. Neither AAV sets a record. And the White Sox didn’t get either of them. The White Sox have a total of $15m committed to next year’s payroll. And we’ve spent 45 million on total mediocrity this offseason. Please explain again why Hahn has a job?
February 28, 20197 yr As a lurker, I just wanna say these Manny and Harper threads made the offseason pretty damn entertaining. Likely more entertaining than the regular season will be.
February 28, 20197 yr Just now, TheTruth05 said: Sox now angrier and stealthier than ever before!! lmao Nobody will see it coming when they sign Adam Jones.
February 28, 20197 yr At this point I'll be frank I don't give a shit. I'll watch probably the first few weeks and then I could care less when the suckage starts.
February 28, 20197 yr Just now, flavum said: Machado was an epic fail. Harper wasn’t coming here no matter what. This is a cop out the Sox will use even though it's 100% false.
February 28, 20197 yr Finally over though. We knew what this org was when they failed with Machado so this was expected. Hahn is going to wear this for a long time. I’m not sure he will even want to show himself to the public for a while. Wait until next year soxfest ? there won’t be a sell out but the people there aren’t going to be happy go lucky.
February 28, 20197 yr Just now, Balta1701 said: I'm much less angry today than last time. Yes. This is how I feel. Harper would have been cool I guess but machado was the prize for us. We invested so heavily in that.
February 28, 20197 yr People are confusing "upset because this deal should not have been out of reach for a team that seriously targeted the top free agents for 2 years and need it for a stifled rebuild" with "upset because they believed they were getting harper and didn't" I will always believe the sox are capable of making the correct and achievable choice, and always upset when they can't execute it.
February 28, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: And we’ve spent 45 million on total mediocrity this offseason. Please explain again why Hahn has a job? Yeah, I’m not really bummed about Harper just bc I had no hope for them signing him. But this has been an awful offseason for the entire front office. Not only did they completely botch the whole thing, but they did it in the most fan murdering way possible.
February 28, 20197 yr Just now, Balta1701 said: I'm much less angry today than last time. After they showed their cards once Machado "stunned" them, we all knew there was no way they'd pony up for Harper. Really hoping for a miracle where JR sells this org.
February 28, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: When they win, they draw. Mark buehrle and Paul konerko weren't drawing fans when they sucked. Sox fans don't show up to watch even ok baseball. They wont even show up and watch if they look good for a while - they need to sustain it to get fans. Times have changed. Harper has a much stronger national media and social media following and is on the cover of The Show and face of numerous endorsements . He connects to the next generation more so than most players in MLB and is the type of player that puts fans, especially young fans, in seats. Your excuse is just because Sox never had a player that drew fans (I mean Moncada call up drew fans even when he is nowhere close to the star Harper is) so we should adopt a strategy that is proven to draw fans. That seems silly. Edited February 28, 20197 yr by thxfrthmmrs
February 28, 20197 yr I guess the question is....how in the name of Zues's butthole does Hahn convince any of these players to sign here next year with probably a bad record and even more teams bidding?
February 28, 20197 yr So the optimistic view is that 2019 is another 100 loss year, 2020 is probably a .500 year, and contention in 2021? That's two full years after they said they wanted to start contention. The combination of many prospects not working out/injury and the lack of offseason moves has severely hurt this franchise. There will be no fans left by the time they are competing again. Bear in mind this is the optimistic view, which is very unlikely to manifest so it will probably be even worse Edited February 28, 20197 yr by whitesoxwinner
February 28, 20197 yr Just now, Kpet1010 said: Sox will sign kimbrels cat to a 25 mil one year deal They will then open the box and realize there was already a 50% chance the cat was dead before it was signed. Somehow this is a metaphor for our DH position this decade...
February 28, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If you adjust ARoid and Manroid's 2000 vintage deals for payroll growth, you're talking about $500 million deals today being comparable to what those guys signed for. Crazy.. right?
February 28, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Baron said: At this point I'll be frank I don't give a shit. I'll watch probably the first few weeks and then I could care less when the suckage starts. Yeah, I will tune in to see Eloy and Moncada a bit. But I have never felt so apathetic (now that the hate and anger and frustration have worn off) towards this team.
February 28, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: I'm much less angry today than last time. oh totally. We learned a lot for the next go around though: - "stealth mode" is not a thing. maybe for trades, it isn't for free agents. - jerry reinsdorfs ability as a businessman could not matter less - how elite free agents value themselves matters, and if you aren't prepared to sign them at their value, plan your organization accordingly.
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