January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Or who's to say Machado doesn't say screw it and I'll just sign a 1 year $35 million deal for a team of my choice. Try Free Agency again next season. I don't think it'll be a smart idea on his end. He'll then have to compete with Arenado.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said: Or who's to say Machado doesn't say screw it and I'll just sign a 1 year $35 million deal for a team of my choice. Try Free Agency again next season. That would be insane. He'd be leaving $300 million on the table. I could see Harper going back to Washington for 1 year at $50 mil or something, since Boras is his agent and seems to like high stakes poker. But realistically, the market won't be any better for them next year. The Cubs/Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers are still going to have no openings and/or no money to spend.
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, shipps said: I will say, if the Yankees trade Andujar for that SP that they need I will be pretty sure they are getting Manny again. LOL This roller coaster ride is not over until it comes to a complete stop and we all get off sick. Right now their rotation is Severino, Paxton, Tanaka, Happ, Sabathia, Gray. They're currently 6 deep. They've been iffy on if they'll trade Gray given medical issues on Paxton, Tanaka, annd Sabathia, but even if they did they still have a full-ish rotation.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, daggins said: Watch the Phils sign both. You've cut down my optimism in person and online in one week's time. like hot knife thru butter
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Roughneck said: That would be insane. He'd be leaving $300 million on the table. I could see Harper going back to Washington for 1 year at $50 mil or something, since Boras is his agent and seems to like high stakes poker. But realistically, the market won't be any better for them next year. The Cubs/Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers are still going to have no openings and/or no money to spend. He's not getting that $300 million deal. At least not with the two teams that remain in pursuit.
January 11, 20197 yr Think this is worth mentioning because Dave mentioned this weeks ago when all the Machado/Yankees smoke was out there.
January 11, 20197 yr "There's no downside for the Machado camp to hold out until someone meets their price, they don't have to agree to the best offer until February. " Actually, I think there is. If Philly meets with Harper Saturday and flash the "stupid money" ($350mm+++) and Harper bites (unlikely perhaps, but who knows...), Manny suddenly runs out of deep pocket suitors to play off each other and create a faux 'bidding war'. Suddenly, Machado's leverage is gone and his best reasonable offer will likely be the WSox package. It becomes a game of Chicken - who blinks first, Manny or the WSox to finally pin him down and sell some SoxFest and Season Tix?
January 11, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Honestly? I think we're at a stalemate perhaps for the next couple weeks. There's no downside for the Machado camp to hold out until someone meets their price, they don't have to agree to the best offer until February. Harper looming for the Phillies would be a pretty huge downside.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, bruni said: "There's no downside for the Machado camp to hold out until someone meets their price, they don't have to agree to the best offer until February. " Actually, I think there is. If Philly meets with Harper Saturday and flash the "stupid money" ($350mm+++) and Harper bites (unlikely perhaps, but who knows...), Manny suddenly runs out of deep pocket suitors to play off each other and create a faux 'bidding war'. Suddenly, Machado's leverage is gone and his best reasonable offer will likely be the WSox package. It becomes a game of Chicken - who blinks first, Manny or the WSox to finally pin him down and sell some SoxFest and Season Tix? This is a really good post with the Yankees presumably out of it.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Sockin said: Think this is worth mentioning because Dave mentioned this weeks ago when all the Machado/Yankees smoke was out there. so did not like there hustle comment or someting?
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, HOFHurt35 said: He's not getting that $300 million deal. At least not with the two teams that remain in pursuit. Okay, he's leaving at least $250 million on the table then. And if he has a bad injury this year, he's then playing for maybe $10 mil next year to rebuild his value and hoping to hit the market again in a year Kris Bryant will be available. It would be super risky, and like I said, the huge spending teams would be out still.
January 11, 20197 yr 37 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Οκ i guess this eliminates yankees from manny Unless he is a close friend or distant cousin.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Roughneck said: Okay, he's leaving at least $250 million on the table then. And if he has a bad injury this year, he's then playing for maybe $10 mil next year to rebuild his value and hoping to hit the market again in a year Kris Bryant will be available. It would be super risky, and like I said, the huge spending teams would be out still. Even if he gets hurt I think he gets more than $10 million. Donaldson signed for over $20 million and he's part glass now.
January 11, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, bruni said: "There's no downside for the Machado camp to hold out until someone meets their price, they don't have to agree to the best offer until February. " Actually, I think there is. If Philly meets with Harper Saturday and flash the "stupid money" ($350mm+++) and Harper bites (unlikely perhaps, but who knows...), Manny suddenly runs out of deep pocket suitors to play off each other and create a faux 'bidding war'. Suddenly, Machado's leverage is gone and his best reasonable offer will likely be the WSox package. It becomes a game of Chicken - who blinks first, Manny or the WSox to finally pin him down and sell some SoxFest and Season Tix? This is very good. I don't know if the Phillies would want to sign both, but I think if the Sox signed one, they go back to the other with their most recent deal (not the highest they would go) and say "We're leaving this out here for you. Final offer if you want to join, too." One of these guys sign and the market for the other collapses, baring the Dodgers really deciding to get in on Harper.
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: You've cut down my optimism in person and online in one week's time. like hot knife thru butter Ya'll just gotta get on my (negative) level.
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, timbo8 said: so did not like there hustle comment or someting? Could be just a discussion on where best to use their resources.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, daggins said: Ya'll just gotta get on my (negative) level. We don't need a second Fathom, thanks. Edited January 11, 20197 yr by DirtySox
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, Peacock Wrestler said: Even if he gets hurt I think he gets more than $10 million. Donaldson signed for over $20 million and he's part glass now. I'm talking about a catastrophic injury. But regardless, that's still only $20 mil and he's not signing a $300 mil deal next year if he is coming off an injury. So he's going 1-year again and kicking the can down the road further on the mega deal.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, ptatc said: Could be just a discussion on where best to use their resources. Which should never have been Manny. The Yankees lineup is already stacked, Manny wasn't going to push them past the Red Sox. They still need pitching.
January 11, 20197 yr Manny has to be waiting on the this Phillies meeting with Harper. It would be dumb for him not to. Sox fans have to hope Phillies are able to make the Harper deal happen this weekend.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: We don't need a second Fathom please. Yeah. Isn't that Balta's position?
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