2 minutes ago, Peacock Wrestler said:

Plot twist....Bruce Levine is the father and he was right all along..

Not sure I've ever seen Bruce Levine wear a hat though.

I still don't know what the heck Bruce was talking about. Was he talking out of his ass to sound smart or was he legit? I'm not sure what the future value of the dollar has to deal with years and total salary at signing. 

8 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

"Manny Machado's father has not spoken about teams offering contracts to Manny.  As a matter of fact, Machado does not have a father.  He was hatched in a laboratory that was trying to create the perfect baseball player." - Bruce Levine probably

"Why would I lie?"

9 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

That’s the small new era patch that is on all Mlb replica hats bro...

Actually, the New Era logo now appears on all official game hats. Has since the 2016 playoffs. And it still looks awful and out of place.

2 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

I still don't know what the heck Bruce was talking about. Was he talking out of his ass to sound smart or was he legit? I'm not sure what the future value of the dollar has to deal with years and total salary at signing. 

He was making up BS to pretend his source was legit. I think he was trying to explain "net present value" and that a $250M contract over 7 years with deferred payments had a present value of $175M. Of course he didn't use any of those words, so who knows.

Machado's father is either taking liberties or doesn't know the whole story. We've heard from a handful of sources that the Yankees never actually offered a contract. The Dodgers have a 3B and a SS, interest in Harper, and not enough money to spend. I don't doubt they made a crap offer to Machado, but if they were serious, we'd have heard of it by now.

Either way, he just said vague stuff which could point to pretty much any team other than the Yankees. And who knows if he has any actual info?

1 minute ago, Roughneck said:

Machado's father is either taking liberties or doesn't know the whole story. We've heard from a handful of sources that the Yankees never actually offered a contract. The Dodgers have a 3B and a SS, interest in Harper, and not enough money to spend. I don't doubt they made a crap offer to Machado, but if they were serious, we'd have heard of it by now.

Either way, he just said vague stuff which could point to pretty much any team other than the Yankees. And who knows if he has any actual info?

Yeah but those shades ... 

18 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’ve also seen that they’ve made up over last few years 

How many people would you trust if you were trying to negotiate a $300M contract? I know nothing about their relationship, but i'm skeptical that he would be in the circle of trust under the circumstances. I suspect he was asked questions and he answered. When you have no real information, there's no risk of harm.

Next ride on the roller coaster begins now!! Hop on boys! 

3 hours ago, hogan873 said:

But he'll be our dirty player...hopefully.  We all loved AJ, and we'll love Machado, too...hopefully.

Like Ozzie said - “We don’t love AJ... we just hate him less than everyone else hates him” ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1086264859166212096

there is this as well stating that manny is quietly waiting for the signing to occur.....so is it a done deal, just waiting for announcement or what?

2 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1086264859166212096

there is this as well stating that manny is quietly waiting for the signing to occur.....so is it a done deal, just waiting for announcement or what?

I took it more as he's being patient and not going to jump into anything.  However, it's such a vague statement we can assume it means pretty much anything.  

14 minutes ago, Roughneck said:

Machado's father is either taking liberties or doesn't know the whole story. We've heard from a handful of sources that the Yankees never actually offered a contract. The Dodgers have a 3B and a SS, interest in Harper, and not enough money to spend. I don't doubt they made a crap offer to Machado, but if they were serious, we'd have heard of it by now.

Either way, he just said vague stuff which could point to pretty much any team other than the Yankees. And who knows if he has any actual info?

I still think there is a whole bunch of stuff that can be explained by people using offer, formal offer, etc interchangeably when there is no defined meaning to any of them anyway. 

Maybe the yanks never offered him but discussed numbers all the same. Who knows. Would explain a lot of the "so and so offered" // " NO they didn't" back and forth.

5 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1086264859166212096

there is this as well stating that manny is quietly waiting for the signing to occur.....so is it a done deal, just waiting for announcement or what?

I think realistically it means while there is two eager sides, they are still working out a contract that will be first of its kind and not just in AAV.

25 minutes ago, BigSexy23 said:

Dallas Keuchel	SP	31
Gio Gonzalez	SP	33
Wade Miley	SP	32
Clay Buchholz	SP	34
Drew Pomeranz	SP	30
Martin Perez	SP	27
Jeremy Hellickson	SP	31
Ervin Santana	SP
Brett Anderson	SP	31
Jason Hammel	SP	36
Edwin Jackson	SP	35
Marco Estrada	SP	35
Francisco Liriano	SP	35
Doug Fister	SP	35
Yovani Gallardo	SP	35

 

Notable starters still left....not much

Not much if you're looking for a  playoff run, but I think there are arms much more serviceable than what we have to offer..

I still like Keuchel for all the reasons that have been discussed over and over. I like ground ball tendencies, how he'll likely age, price, probably only 4 year contract, etc.

 

Other than that I'd love to explore a 1yr + option deal in the following order: Santana, Buchholz, Gio, Hellickson, Pomeranz. All th rest I'd pass on. I'd even lean on passing on Pomeranz and Hellickson. Pomeranz mostly because of health issues... forget what he injured, but I thought his velocity is truggling...

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

I still think there is a whole bunch of stuff that can be explained by people using offer, formal offer, etc interchangeably when there is no defined meaning to any of them anyway. 

Maybe the yanks never offered him but discussed numbers all the same. Who knows. Would explain a lot of the "so and so offered" // " NO they didn't" back and forth.

Absolutely.  Always thought this was in play.  People's interpretations of technicalities/terminologies.  Sooner or later the need for a tweet became larger than a person's willingness to stick to their rule about only posting correctly termed details.  It became mush quickly.  

The updates to the thread title almost make this slog worth it.

2 minutes ago, SoxFanForever said:

The updates to the thread title almost make this slog worth it.

I legitimately laughed out loud at this one.

11 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said:

Not much if you're looking for a  playoff run, but I think there are arms much more serviceable than what we have to offer..

I still like Keuchel for all the reasons that have been discussed over and over. I like ground ball tendencies, how he'll likely age, price, probably only 4 year contract, etc.

 

Other than that I'd love to explore a 1yr + option deal in the following order: Santana, Buchholz, Gio, Hellickson, Pomeranz. All th rest I'd pass on. I'd even lean on passing on Pomeranz and Hellickson. Pomeranz mostly because of health issues... forget what he injured, but I thought his velocity is truggling...

Martin Perez is only 27? Maybe he'd be a good addition. Let me check on those staaaooohhhmy god

I would take a flyer on Martin perez

40 minutes ago, Roughneck said:

Actually, the New Era logo now appears on all official game hats. Has since the 2016 playoffs. And it still looks awful and out of place.

Yah, I should have said all new era "on field" caps. 

And I totally agree.  Hate it.  As someone who wears a lot on field caps, I hate the logo there.  

9 minutes ago, bmags said:

Martin Perez is only 27? Maybe he'd be a good addition. Let me check on those staaaooohhhmy god

He's been pretty brutal lately, but he is a guy the White Sox had a lot of interest in a few years ago.

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

He's been pretty brutal lately, but he is a guy the White Sox had a lot of interest in a few years ago.

If he get's a minor league deal then come aboard. surprisingly he wouldn't actually be worse than other pitchers on our pitching staff.

Martin Perez at 27 would be fine. Being that young, there is definitely some upside. I agree though, do it if you can get him on a minor league deal.

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Yah, I should have said all new era "on field" caps. 

And I totally agree.  Hate it.  As someone who wears a lot on field caps, I hate the logo there.  

I bought a few of the 2016 caps sans NE logo on clearance after that season. I am stocked up and don't plan on ever buying another game cap ever because I hate the logo on the side. Fine for a replica, but looks so bad as part of the uniform. And come 2020, we're going to have Nike's swoosh on the chest of the jerseys, so none of this is ever getting better. Probably 5 years until we have "modest" advertisements on the sleeves and maybe another 10 years before it looks like NASCAR or soccer.