Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

 

 

If we get Machado for 250 you have to go for Harper. That's 100 million less than the predictions at beginning of this process. 

Just now, StateStSports said:

Sox usually sign players in the middle of the night. Can someone stay on night watch?

I'm up until 3 am every night. I'll be here baby boy.

5 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

 

 

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Edited January 14, 20197 yr by SouthWallace

7 minutes ago, GenericUserName said:

Maybe the Sox come back around to the Mariners. It would probably cost some prospects, but a deal with Mike Leake and Mallex Smith would give us the extra outfielder we all want plus it would fill out the rotation. 

That's gonna be a no on that one. I want nothing to do with Mike Leake and that contract.

I'm up for another 5 hours at least.

Hector Gomez with a late night bomb!!

2 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

I'm up until 3 am every night. I'll be here baby boy.

You’re my boy Blue

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by StateStSports

3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

 

I would prefer the Phillies not being involved anymore 

1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said:

Hector Gomez with a late night bomb!!

Nah, it's only like 4 PM in the Dominican Republic right now. 

So if they’re willing to go to ten years, you’re looking around 310-320.  Maybe it’s me, but I feel someone will beat 8/250.

What is the record for posts in a thread? Around 6,000 flat? We're 150 away so, if so, we'll break that record by the morning. 

I'm going to predict news breaks around 7:15 tomorrow morning that Manny is signing with the Sox.

1 minute ago, beckham15 said:

I would prefer the Phillies not being involved anymore 

It went from the Phillies being "in it" to "involved".. I like that

4 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

If we get Machado for 250 you have to go for Harper. That's 100 million less than the predictions at beginning of this process. 

Right now they're around 80. That's a $32M AAV.

If your payroll is only $112M...screw it, go for Harper.

38 minutes ago, turnin' two said:

If they sign Pollock (just playing along) I would guess he plays CF and Jay is the 4th OFer type.  

I can take the Sox seriously if that's the case then. 

Just now, fathom said:

So if they’re willing to go to ten years, you’re looking around 310-320.  Maybe it’s me, but I feel someone will beat 8/250.

It’s not just you, I feel like it has to be at least 8/275 but that’s just my hunch

2 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

But they don't have the pitching; and they are light on O unless Anderson and Moncada improve; which they may or may not.   The Sox have at least 3 top CF prospects...just not the position to go for a FA.  Jay and Alonso just aren't top shelf talents...by a long shot.   Sox need another year to sort things out.
 

For once I agree with you. The starting pitching doesn't even have a guy you can legitimately call a 1 or even a 2 starter. I think the offense will be fine with Machado and Eloy added to it . Bullpen probably not playoff caliber either. No really big gun .Just a bunch of guys who can either hit or miss but not hit huge but could miss huge out in the pen.

5 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

If we get Machado for 250 you have to go for Harper. That's 100 million less than the predictions at beginning of this process. 

You do realize the difference between 250/8 and 350/10 is under 4 million a year, right? 

The total means nothing here. 

23 minutes ago, Tony said:

You can make those positive claims about every team in the league. If this guy does this, and this guy does this, we got a good one on our hands!!

I appreciate the optimism, but this team has to prove it before they get the benefit of the doubt. 

Every team has two former top 5 overall prospects under the age of 24 in their lineup?

2 minutes ago, Quin said:

 

Right now they're around 80. That's a $32M AAV.

If your payroll is only $112M...screw it, go for Harper.

Let's just pretend the Sox get both of them. Would you stagger their opt-outs so that way the roster won't be completely stripped in 1 year, or do you line up their opt outs together so if they BOTH take their opt out, you suddenly have $70M or so to instantly spend on whoever the top young FA is that off-season? You basically promise yourself the ability to sign the best FA that offseason.

1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Let's just pretend the Sox get both of them. Would you stagger their opt-outs so that way the roster won't be completely stripped in 1 year, or do you line up their opt outs together so if they BOTH take their opt out, you suddenly have $70M or so to instantly spend on whoever the top young FA is that off-season? You basically promise yourself the ability to sign the best FA that offseason.

Stagger them a year apart. Either one gives you $30M+ in cash to retain your own guys or sign someone if they leave.

However, if one of them leaves, our prospects of luring another top FA are probably bad. 

It’s weird Passan has picked up on this and not Heyman, everything on the Machado front has seemed to come from Heyman or Nightengale as of late

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by beckham15

6 minutes ago, soxfan18 said:

You do realize the difference between 250/8 and 350/10 is under 4 million a year, right? 

The total mea means nothing here. 

The early season predictions for machado and Harper were ten year minimum with 12/13 year deals desired. So 8 is an amazing feat even at 32 mil a year...this is prime of career ages we are talking here.

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by EloyJenkins

Would love to just see one of those tweets from Heyman or Rosenthal saying “Sox making progress on 8 year deal with Machado, as first reported by Passan”.

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Need legit breakouts from two of Rodon/Lopez/Giolito plus #3 & #4 type performances from Gio & Nova respectively.  I know Balta thinks you need four Cy Young finalists to make the playoffs, but look at the Brewers last year.  A strong lineup and bullpen can help make up for that.  Machado & Pollock could be poor man version’s of Yelich & Cain for us.  Still a long-shot we make the playoffs, but I’d be rolling the dice on that roster next year knowing I still have a boatload or prospects arriving in the coming years.

The White Sox were actually 8th in MLB for quality starts with 74.  Probably the only positive stat we were Top 15 in.

The Brewers were 26th with 51.

The scary part is James Shields had 19.  Lopez had 19, Giolito 15, Rodon 11 and Covey 6.   Fulmer had 2, Santiago 1 and there must have been a "team" QS that's not individually credited.

 

The difference is the Brewers had at least 7 starters they could count on to hold the game close and get it to the bullpen.  We had, at best, 3 reliables, at any given point in the season.    Pretty much every week, there were 40% of the starts that were borderline disasters.

 

Just now, beckham15 said:

Weird Passan has picked up on this and not Heyman

He's too busy voting for Bonds but not Clemens for the HOF.