January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Whitesox27 said: What SP's would you guys even target? Luis Castillo of the Reds possibly? I don't think the Reds would move him as they seem to be making a push towards contending this year. And he does have 5 years of control left.
January 14, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said: We will not get a number 2 for adolfo and rutherford A backend top 100 (Rutherford) and a close to top 100 OF prospect (Micker, I am sure he will be top 100 within next year) would get you a pretty nice SP, IMO.
January 14, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: eh, despite rhetoric I'd guess most in this thread feel better than they ever have about signing machado and are just annoyed at process. agreed. i cant believe were in and wish it were over, but i understand why it has taken this long
January 14, 20197 yr Micker is going to be a monster. I'm on that train so hard. Keith Law loves him. I'd more dangle Luis Gonzalez/Rutherford as alternatives. Edited January 14, 20197 yr by DirtySox
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, bmags said: Feels like we've been saying this for 3 straight years. A bunch of teams re-set their luxury tax for this year and salaries had been cleared for this free agent period. i don't know that it will be better. Well Harper was offered at least $300mil depending on reports. Boras just wants more. Arenado is asking for $30mil in arb, so its hard to imagine that next year hell want less than $30mil per year. I think the saying is "it only takes 1." I personally think that the dam is going to break soon. When you look at a list of top paid MLB players a lot of them are past their prime. Owners can only keep salaries down for so long. Eventually some team sells or a different owner decides to break the bank again.
January 14, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: What SP's would you guys even target? Luis Castillo of the Reds possibly? They aren't trading their "ace" for prospects. They are in win now mode
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Micker is going to be a monster. I'm on that train so hard. Keith Law loves him. I'd more dangle Luis Gonzalez/Rutherford as alternatives. Luis Gonzalez will be the starting RF for the Sox eventually.
January 14, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Don't think this adds credibility either way. Also there is something bizarre about how large the font on OFFERED is there.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, mqr said: Don't think this adds credibility either way. Also there is something bizarre about how large the font on OFFERED is there. Just now, AustinIllini said: Lol. So many local guys trying to refute this, lol. Yeah probably just ran with the info from last night.
January 14, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: What SP's would you guys even target? Luis Castillo of the Reds possibly? Maybe you agree to eat Grienke's contract and you don't have to give up as big of a package?
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Luis Gonzalez will be the starting RF for the Sox eventually. He'll likely be the starting CF for the Sox before he's the starting RF. He's definitely ahead of Robert in his development. I could see Gonzalez roaming CF in Chicago by August, honestly.
January 14, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: I don't think the Reds would move him as they seem to be making a push towards contending this year. And he does have 5 years of control left. Jon Gray and Dylan Bundy could be interesting "buy low" candidates for the Sox. The Sox need to address the #5 starter's spot regardless if they get Machado. No way do I want them to start the season with Manny Banuelos in the rotation.
January 14, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said: Maybe you agree to eat Grienke's contract and you don't have to give up as big of a package? I floated this a few pages back and you know, right after posting it I kinda regretted it. If we ate all or most of that deal, it'd hamstring us to do anything for a couple seasons. Even on the trade market, you add his 30+ mil to Machado/Harper's 30+ mil, gonna get tough to have wiggle room to augment for a bit.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: He'll likely be the starting CF for the Sox before he's the starting RF. He's definitely ahead of Robert in his development. I could see Gonzalez roaming CF in Chicago by August, honestly. He probably could've been in AA last year. That's why he might be the kind of guy who barely stays in Charlotte just because he's so polished.
January 14, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: What SP's would you guys even target? Luis Castillo of the Reds possibly? If you sign Machado and you really want to play this game - you realize that you now have your infield sewn up and you are not moving Moncada away from 2b any time soon because you're not starting over with development and a rookie if your team is competitive, so Madrigal is your top trade bait. Who has the best starting pitchers available on the trade market? We don't like the answer but it's Cleveland. A deal for one of their starters with Madrigal and someone else from our 5-10 range as 2 key pieces...that could work if the Indians didn't hate Madrigal. And conveniently, it would make the Central division more attainable in 2019.
January 14, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Well Harper was offered at least $300mil depending on reports. Boras just wants more. Arenado is asking for $30mil in arb, so its hard to imagine that next year hell want less than $30mil per year. I think the saying is "it only takes 1." I personally think that the dam is going to break soon. When you look at a list of top paid MLB players a lot of them are past their prime. Owners can only keep salaries down for so long. Eventually some team sells or a different owner decides to break the bank again. Oh I think teams are willing to pay 30 mill for the prime years of a contract and can get pulled into the tail ends of the contract, what I don't believe is only taking a 2 year contract getting the AAV you wants will open up more opportunity for the age 29-34 years of your contract. You may be faced again with shorter deals than you want and lower AAV. There is no guarantee. Also injury.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Could you imagine the kick in the dick this would be? you cant count out the Yankees, dodgers and cubs..
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Could you imagine the kick in the dick this would be? Eyeroll.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Could you imagine the kick in the dick this would be? That would suck, but probably not worth mentioning in this roller coaster.
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