January 17, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, SoxFanForever said: I think that makes sense in that it would only really help someone negotiating with Harper to show that the price of the other coveted FA comp in his class is getting offered much less than he's looking for. Agreed.
January 17, 20197 yr Just now, KnightsOnMintSt said: Do we think the Ottavino signing will impact the Yankees trying to sign Machado at all? I think this signing puts the Yankees into luxury tax territory, or if it doesn't it puts them right on the edge of it. If they sign Machado, basically his entire contract would in year 1 have a 20% additional penalty, in year 2 a 30% penalty, and even after Ellsbury's deal ends it would be difficult for them to get out of it in year 3 since so many of their guys will be deep into arbitration. This would also be the last big contract they sign in the next 2 years as if they went over by $40 million they go into huge penalties and lose a draft pick.
January 17, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: That maybe eventually happen, but don’t think we’re there yet or he’d be a Chicago White Sox at 8/$250M already. I think they're already at halfway. Lozano is now waiting to see if the Sox can increase it closer to the $325 that they originally wanted. If the Sox did increase their off by $75 million, he's going to see how much more he can get.
January 17, 20197 yr I read that Lozano article on Deadspin again, and this paragraph is quite interesting: "He'd do this one thing all the time," a former co-worker recalls. "Say he'd get an offer of a million. He'd go back to his player and tell him they'd been offered $800,000, but that was way too low and he'd do what he can. He'd wait a few days, accept the original offer, then tell his player: ‘I talked them up to a million. See how I fight for you? See how I fight for you?'
January 17, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Ottavino would have looked so nice in the Sox bullpen. Damn. The name has a beautiful symmetry to it. He shoulda kept that in mind before signing with a team where it won't grace the back of a jersey, and took a discount from the White Sox instead. Edited January 17, 20197 yr by mqr
January 17, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Ottavino would have looked so nice in the Sox bullpen. Damn. I too would have liked him on a 3/$27M instead of Herrera. Don't think we need all three of Ottavino, Herrera and Colome. Sox have a bunch of promising young bullpen arms. They need to give those guys reps in 2019.
January 17, 20197 yr Craig Kimbrel Ryan Madson Tony Sipp Shawn Kelley Brad Brach Justin Wilson Adam Warren Oliver Perez Zach Duke Nick Vincent Sergio Romo Jake Diekman Tyler Clippard Xavier Cedeno Greg Holland Tony Barnette Aaron Loup John Axford Bud Norris Dan Jennings Alex Wilson Free Agent Relief Pitchers still on the market
January 17, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I read that Lozano article on Deadspin again, and this paragraph is quite interesting: "He'd do this one thing all the time," a former co-worker recalls. "Say he'd get an offer of a million. He'd go back to his player and tell him they'd been offered $800,000, but that was way too low and he'd do what he can. He'd wait a few days, accept the original offer, then tell his player: ‘I talked them up to a million. See how I fight for you? See how I fight for you?' Thanks for posting that paragraph. Very interesting.
January 17, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, mqr said: Well If you believed a certain portion of the Internet, Manny is the worst human being in major professional sports He plays like AJP did for the Sox if you are his opponent you hate him. If he is on your team you love him. Outside of baseball he seems like a nice enough guy. Very family oriented. He played on that 2015 Dom. Rep. baseball classic team because he wanted to make his parents happy. Also on that team Colome and Nova who people often leave out of the Alonso/Jay narrative.
January 17, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: Thanks for posting that paragraph. Very interesting. Sounds like he was trying to steal a 20% cut off the million...
January 17, 20197 yr fairly certain Ottavino took a nice home town discount as a Yankees fan from Brooklyn. I'm sure Sox wanted him but couldnt get him for that price. I have a feeling they are saving that money for Gio Gonzalez. Reliable LHP, has the Manny/Alonso/Jay Miami connection
January 17, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: He plays like AJP did for the Sox if you are his opponent you hate him. If he is on your team you love him. Outside of baseball he seems like a nice enough guy. Very family oriented. He played on that 2015 Dom. Rep. baseball classic team because he wanted to make his parents happy. Also on that team Colome and Nova who people often leave out of the Alonso/Jay narrative. Dont forget Wellington Castillo
January 17, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, BigSexy23 said: Craig Kimbrel Ryan Madson Tony Sipp Shawn Kelley Brad Brach Justin Wilson Adam Warren Oliver Perez Zach Duke Nick Vincent Sergio Romo Jake Diekman Tyler Clippard Xavier Cedeno Greg Holland Tony Barnette Aaron Loup John Axford Bud Norris Dan Jennings Alex Wilson Free Agent Relief Pitchers still on the market this list is missing people. one for sur is cody allen.
January 17, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Fuagman said: fairly certain Ottavino took a nice home town discount as a Yankees fan from Brooklyn. I'm sure Sox wanted him but couldnt get him for that price. I have a feeling they are saving that money for Gio Gonzalez. Reliable LHP, has the Manny/Alonso/Jay Miami connection I'd love for the Sox to get Gio.
January 17, 20197 yr On 1/9/2019 at 6:03 PM, southsider2k5 said: I told you he was going for Scarface. He is a deadringer for Manny Ribera.
January 17, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, fathom said: I read that Lozano article on Deadspin again, and this paragraph is quite interesting: "He'd do this one thing all the time," a former co-worker recalls. "Say he'd get an offer of a million. He'd go back to his player and tell him they'd been offered $800,000, but that was way too low and he'd do what he can. He'd wait a few days, accept the original offer, then tell his player: ‘I talked them up to a million. See how I fight for you? See how I fight for you?' Isn't that illegal? I thought agents were required to report every deal to the player?
January 17, 20197 yr 16 minutes ago, fathom said: I read that Lozano article on Deadspin again, and this paragraph is quite interesting: "He'd do this one thing all the time," a former co-worker recalls. "Say he'd get an offer of a million. He'd go back to his player and tell him they'd been offered $800,000, but that was way too low and he'd do what he can. He'd wait a few days, accept the original offer, then tell his player: ‘I talked them up to a million. See how I fight for you? See how I fight for you?' This is how I imagine what almost every agent is like.
January 17, 20197 yr 11 minutes ago, Peacock Wrestler said: I'd love for the Sox to get Gio. Why? How many #5 starters does a team need?
January 17, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: Why? How many #5 starters does a team need? Well.... Seeing that we don't even have 5 major league starters, I'd say we need more.. I'd say we have 3.5. Rodon, Lopez and Nova. I gave Giolito a .5 since he will get a year to see what he can prove. Edited January 17, 20197 yr by cjgalloway
January 17, 20197 yr One more thought, with the release of the information we saw yesterday from the Machado agent, I think any hopes of this being days away from being are now officially dashed. If it were close, there would be no need for negotiations in the press of offers being SO far apart.
January 17, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Well.... Seeing that we don't even have 5 major league starters, I'd say we need more.. I'd say we have 3.5. Rodon, Lopez and Nova. I gave Giolito a .5 since he will get a year to see what he can prove. So you’re not looking to sign a good pitcher, just someone who can be a plug-in?
January 17, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: I was going to call the guy out because he must be obsessed with Machado because he has a few different tweets directed towards him....Then I think of us on page 373
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