January 21, 20197 yr Just now, Whitesox27 said: I wonder how big of an influence Machado has on this potential deal. Obviously Pederson is an upgrade regardless, but his connection with Machado is worth noting IMO. I doubt this has anything to do with Machado and is simply coincidence. Pederson is a good player and immediately become the best OF'er on the Sox. This looks like a baseball move.
January 21, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: I wonder how big of an influence Machado has on this potential deal. Obviously Pederson is an upgrade regardless, but his connection with Machado is worth noting IMO. I think it’s the other way around. I think this is a move that, if made, speaks to the FO’s confidence in executing on Machado
January 21, 20197 yr 31 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: Muncy was also a AAAA player that came out of nowhere. Who knows if he'll be able to even come close to these numbers again. May not, but Justin Turner and Chris Taylor have AAAA pedigree....they seem to have gotten "lucky' with a lot of late bloomers.
January 21, 20197 yr 14 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I doubt this has anything to do with Machado and is simply coincidence. Pederson is a good player and immediately become the best OF'er on the Sox. This looks like a baseball move. True. Pederson is worth acquiring on his own merits unlike Jay and to an extent, Alonso. It's unfortunate that he only has 2 years of team control left but hopefully someone will be ready to take his place by then, whether that's Luis Robert or someone else.
January 21, 20197 yr 18 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I doubt this has anything to do with Machado and is simply coincidence. Pederson is a good player and immediately become the best OF'er on the Sox. This looks like a baseball move. Until April 15
January 21, 20197 yr 13 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: True. Pederson is worth acquiring on his own merits unlike Jay and to an extent, Alonso. It's unfortunate that he only has 2 years of team control left but hopefully someone will be ready to take his place by then, whether that's Luis Robert or someone else. When the young OF'ers are ready to take his place maybe he could be resigned to become our first baseman, if he remains a solid player for us. We do have a topic on the future of first base. Edited January 21, 20197 yr by Saufley
January 21, 20197 yr When he hits FA at 28 years old...turning 29...it will be as an OFer, and probably still CF. Same principle as Machado at SS. Edited January 21, 20197 yr by caulfield12
January 21, 20197 yr 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: When he hits FA at 28 years old...turning 29...it will be as an OFer, and probably still CF. Same principle as Machado at SS. Nope.
January 21, 20197 yr 40 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I doubt this has anything to do with Machado and is simply coincidence. Pederson is a good player and immediately become the best OF'er on the Sox. This looks like a baseball move. I agree, I think some here underrate 2 years of control and he’s young and good. If he is available for less than he could be typically, then you just make move regardless.
January 21, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, IowaPG said: Any truth to Scott Alexander in this deal?? Idk. Is someone tweeting something?
January 21, 20197 yr If Pederson was a free agent, I'd be all for the Sox getting him. But I don't like trading a nice prospect like Bush for him when he only has 2 years of control left and likely won't be here when the White Sox World Domination window is open. I think this move only makes sense if they are getting Machado and also landing Kuechel. But even then, us winning still requires Yoan to rebound, Giolito to rebound, and for Eloy to tear it up from the start when called up.
January 21, 20197 yr 17 minutes ago, bmags said: Nope. So you're saying that Joc Pederson is going to be playing 1B for the White Sox? Why wouldn't he play CF? Edited January 21, 20197 yr by caulfield12
January 21, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, Roughneck said: If Pederson was a free agent, I'd be all for the Sox getting him. But I don't like trading a nice prospect like Bush for him when he only has 2 years of control left and likely won't be here when the White Sox World Domination window is open. I think this move only makes sense if they are getting Machado and also landing Kuechel. But even then, us winning still requires Yoan to rebound, Giolito to rebound, and for Eloy to tear it up from the start when called up. There's no way they're going to add Keuchel this year...it's going to be someone like Miley/Gio/Pomeranz, depending on whether we get HIll or not. It doesn't make sense to go all-in on the FA pitching market until we know exactly what we have (and we still won't know about Kopech 100%) heading into 2020.
January 21, 20197 yr 20 hours ago, fathom said: Tweet mentioned Bryce Bush Please provide said tweet.
January 21, 20197 yr I guess I'm way out of the loop, but everyone is talking about Bryce Bush and how he shouldn't be traded. I looked at the White Sox Top 30 Prospects and didn't even see him listed. Is he new or something? Drafted last year?
January 21, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: So you're saying that Joc Pederson is going to be playing 1B for the White Sox? Why wouldn't he play CF? Teams in free agency are going to want joc as a corner outfielder
January 21, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, drgiggles15 said: I guess I'm way out of the loop, but everyone is talking about Bryce Bush and how he shouldn't be traded. I looked at the White Sox Top 30 Prospects and didn't even see him listed. Is he new or something? Drafted last year? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.southsidesox.com/platform/amp/2018/8/2/17642278/under-the-radar-bryce-bush-2018-draft-steal
January 21, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, The Beast said: Please provide said tweet. Then he later tweeted... Edited January 21, 20197 yr by bschmaranz
January 21, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, IowaPG said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.southsidesox.com/platform/amp/2018/8/2/17642278/under-the-radar-bryce-bush-2018-draft-steal Yeah, I should have just googled first
January 21, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: So you're saying that Joc Pederson is going to be playing 1B for the White Sox? Why wouldn't he play CF? Your argument is Joc would demand to play CF going into free agency a la Manny Machado instead of moving to corner. It’s a terrible argument. If he needs to play CF because Sox need it, then it has nothing to do with what machado did. So it’s a terrible argument.
January 21, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: I have a hard time believing this kid is getting as many updates as he is implying.
January 21, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, drgiggles15 said: Yeah, I should have just googled first http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2018/08/prospect-focus-bryce-bush/ heres another good one. all good lol
January 21, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: I have a hard time believing this kid is getting as many updates as he is implying. I kind of agree, but at the same time, Peggy Kusinski has a crapton of contacts.
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