2 minutes ago, fathom said:

So what exactly is Cooper doing to make Lopez better?  There’s not been a single development he’s made since he got here.

I mean you can't wave away what was on balance a pretty solid season last year. And for better or worse his repertoire has changed quite a bit since laving Washington

We should keep track of how many runs Renteria cost the Sox/give to the opposing team. 

1 minute ago, Timmy U said:

Cooper taught Lopez a slider.  He still may not be that good, but that is not nothing.

His slider was significantly better on the Nats. He looks like a totally different pitcher, in a bad way, from his Nats days.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

His slider was significantly better on the Nats. He looks like a totally different pitcher, in a bad way, from his Nats days.

slider with the Nats?

Just now, fathom said:

His slider was significantly better on the Nats. He looks like a totally different pitcher, in a bad way, from his Nats days.

He didn't have a slider. He only threw a curveball. The weird thing is both Giolito and Lopez have both picked up a slider and completely lost their curveballs since joining the Sox. I really don't know why they taught Giolito a slider because he didn't need it. His curve was always ++ before he got here. 

Wow

Well it was fun for a minute.

We already knew this, but pitching is going to be the downfall of this team.

Yeesh.

And now the Sox are losing. Great. 

Engel hurt?

Well then...from 6-1, to this.

6-1 lead down 8-6 ugh

This fucking sucks....  

33 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Gotta really wonder about some of the scouting staff that recommended Lopez and Giolito, too guys with MAJOR mental issues apparently.  Gotta do a better job trying to avoid guys like this in the future.  

I think now that in hindsight all the talk about Lopez as a reliever was mostly due to his mental lapses and sustaining himself over 6-7 innings mentally.

Reinsdorf doesn"t pay for top notch scouts.

He relies heavily on the opposing team's evaluation and gets played a lot.  The Sox just got a bunch of Nats teases and headaches for Eaton.

Moncada trying hard to salvage the Sale trade. 

Who knows about Eloy and Cease.

St. Theo is no fool.

LOLOLOL this organization is a big pile of shit. What an abortion

Nice to know that Jace Fry carried over his trash

Jace Fry is an absolute gas can. 

Why didnt he bring the bullpen in later!!!!

Well this game turned into a pile of shit..

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

He didn't have a slider. He only threw a curveball. The weird thing is both Giolito and Lopez have both picked up a slider and completely lost their curveballs since joining the Sox. I really don't know why they taught Giolito a slider because he didn't need it. His curve was always ++ before he got here. 

Coop insists on the Damn slider/cutter. Coop needs to go. Sox need a different vision. Coop did nice things. But His time is up....

1 minute ago, GradMc said:

Reinsdorf doesn"t pay for top notch scouts.

He relies heavily on the opposing team's evaluation and gets played a lot.  The Sox just got a bunch of Nats teases and headaches for Eaton.

Moncada trying hard to salvage the Sale trade. 

Who knows about Eloy and Cease.

St. Theo is no fool.

LOL that “no fool” just gave Darvish a terrible contact in the 2018 off-season 

1 minute ago, GradMc said:

Reinsdorf doesn"t pay for top notch scouts.

He relies heavily on the opposing team's evaluation and gets played a lot.  The Sox just got a bunch of Nats teases and headaches for Eaton.

Moncada trying hard to salvage the Sale trade. 

Who knows about Eloy and Cease.

St. Theo is no fool.

You mean the guy who spent $310 M on Darvish and Heyward? 

Four homers allowed and too many walks to boot 

Take it easy boys, Fry was solid last season.  Lets stop em and get to their bullpen.