Donald Trump is on record talking about looking at teenage girls, allegedly some of them were 15 at the time. I cant speculate, all I can do is provide the quote's Trump made on Howard Stern.
 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/trump-on-howard-stern/index.html

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"Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it," Trump said. "You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.""You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good," he added

 

/shrugs

 

I think its safe to say that the Clintons are amazing at assassinating people, but at the same time are so inept that they couldnt beat Trump and they got caught doing other stupid shit. But that is part of the huge con, pretend that your so dumb, that people wont figure out all the really terrible shit they are doing.

 

Makes complete sense. 

Edited August 12, 20196 yr by Soxbadger

Plus Trump's justice department had control of Epstein at the end. So yeah, Trump may really have had a vendetta against him. Good points.

 

7 hours ago, raBBit said:

Trump obviously has a litany of issues but I think the pedophilia and the sexual perversions are Clinton persuasions. 

Dude. They’re both perverts with fetishes. Whether it’s interns, their own daughter, urination, etc.

It's unfair to accuse everyone who ever hung out with Epstein of being pedophiles. I believe it's even unfair to accuse those who hung out with Epstein and have checkered sexual pasts of infidelities of also being pedophiles. There's a leap there that some people will not cross even if they like to have extramarital sex with interns and porn actresses. 

Conspiracy theories are lame as fuck.*

Epstein was a rich, well-connected asshole who finally realized this was the big one and no amount of money was going to save him from it. He didn’t want to spend years being gawked at and having all of his sickening details dragged out into the open, and suicide was preferable to this state of complete disgrace. The jail’s suicide watch was weak because they have limited resources for a fixed amount of tasks and bodies had to be elsewhere. So Pedo Jeff had and took his chance.

Also, trying to argue whether Bill Clinton or Donald Trump is more of a pervert is like...oh I suck at analogies, but imagine something really fucking pointless.

*If you just want to read about something shocking and twisted, go read a book on the creation of the modern Middle East, particularly towards the end of World War I. Lawrence In Arabia by Scott Anderson is solid. There’s connivances, there’s backstabbing, there’s incompetence, murder, suicide and more! And it’s all undeniably, documentably TRUE. Leave the conspiracy theories for the fringes.

Per the guidelines of this forum, political talk is not allowed here and therefore several unrelated posts were removed from this thread. 

9 hours ago, Brian said:

Dude. They’re both perverts with fetishes. Whether it’s interns, their own daughter, urination, etc.

The urination stuff came from a fake report of opposition research.

2 hours ago, The Sir said:

1) Conspiracy theories are lame as fuck.*

2) The jail’s suicide watch was weak because they have limited resources for a fixed amount of tasks and bodies had to be elsewhere. So Pedo Jeff had and took his chance.

1) Great point.

2) The jail didn't have a suicide all year. Epstein was the most high profile prisoner in the country. No individual prisoner should have been under higher surveillance than Epstein. This can't be chalked up as incompetence. This is something deliberate.  There was "maintenance"  when it happened and the cameras "malfunctioned." Sounds reasonable. 

Next interesting step, where did he get his money. I just finished a NYTimes article that indicates banks are looking into his finances. 

2 guards placed on leave from that facility. Were supposed to check on him every 30 minutes, were working overtime because prison was understaffed, fell asleep, attempted to falsify login records. 

On 8/12/2019 at 6:48 PM, Texsox said:

Next interesting step, where did he get his money. I just finished a NYTimes article that indicates banks are looking into his finances. 

According to Forbes, here's where it started.

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Born in Brooklyn to working-class parents and raised in Coney Island, Epstein’s first foray into the world of America’s wealthy happened improbably during his tenure at Manhattan’s tony Dalton School, where he taught math. He was hired by Donald Barr, father of U.S. attorney general Bill Barr, who raised eyebrows last week when he refused to recuse himself from Epstein’s case.

It was through Dalton that he met Bear Stearns chairman Alan Greenberg—the father of a student—who thought Epstein seemed to possess a promising financial mind. He was hired and, with what was considered a penchant for arcane mathematical formulas and a gift for detecting patterns, made a limited partner by 1980. But by 1981, Epstein had left Bear Stearns—a later Vanity Fair report said he was asked to leave for some unknown violation—saying he wanted to strike out on his own.

So, he taught math at a prestigious private school in Manhattan. Hired by AG Barr's father (honestly, this is just a weird coincidence, not a conspiracy).

Not mentioned above is that he didn't have a degree and was eventually fired.

The whole read is fascinating: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/07/12/jeffrey-epsteins-dark-faade-finally-cracks/

 

 

We're not in Kansas anymore . . .

 

2 hours ago, SoxAce said:

 

Good.

45 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Good.

This.  Take down the entire network that enabled this SOB.

7 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

This.  Take down the entire network that enabled this SOB.

Fuck yea. I was thinking about this today.  I don’t think anything can happen.  So she could probably take the stand and say anything she wants, like anything.  “Jeffrey made me do XYZ.”

She can say anything because who the hell out of that group is going to testify AGAINST her?  Is Bill Clinton going to come out and say, “That’s a lie!  I was at that molesting party!”  Exchange Bill Clinton for someone from the other side if that offended your delicate nature.  Point is, will anyone outside of victims say anything?

Edited July 3, 20205 yr by Jerksticks

1 hour ago, Jerksticks said:

Fuck yea. I was thinking about this today.  I don’t think anything can happen.  So she could probably take the stand and say anything she wants, like anything.  “Jeffrey made me do XYZ.”

She can say anything because who the hell out of that group is going to testify AGAINST her?  Is Bill Clinton going to come out and say, “That’s a lie!  I was at that molesting party!”  Exchange Bill Clinton for someone from the other side if that offended your delicate nature.  Point is, will anyone outside of victims say anything?

Prince Andrew

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Prince Andrew

We’ll see.  But again, “Yes when I think back there was quite a bit of raping and molesting going on.  I was being introduced to a lot of people, a lot of people were introduced to me.  It didn’t strike me as odd at the time, but now that you mention it, maybe those were children tied up and being molested next to the pool table.”

I just don’t see a way to provide evidence against her without a huge PR nightmare.  

6 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

We’ll see.  But again, “Yes when I think back there was quite a bit of raping and molesting going on.  I was being introduced to a lot of people, a lot of people were introduced to me.  It didn’t strike me as odd at the time, but now that you mention it, maybe those were children tied up and being molested next to the pool table.”

I just don’t see a way to provide evidence against her without a huge PR nightmare.  

Unless she has physical evidence its going to be really easy.

"She is a liar. That never happened. She is just trying to cut a deal. You cant trust a criminal. Why did she never come forward?"

Over 20 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. I dont believe any of them are under arrest and possibly facing years in prison. Yet X percentage of the population doesnt believe them.

I believe we have come to a point where facts dont necessarily matter that much. 

Looking forward to the mysterious suicide when all guards were inexplicable off duty and the camera system was oddly non functional

4 hours ago, StrangeSox said:

Looking forward to the mysterious suicide when all guards were inexplicable off duty and the camera system was oddly non functional

I was going to say, how long until she "kills herself?"