Just now, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’ve got Kopech in there. I’m not expecting much of anything from Dunning or Rodon in 2020. 

You can expect more out of both of them than Ross Detwiler and Odrisamer Despaigne is my point. 

1 minute ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’ve got Kopech in there. I’m not expecting much of anything from Dunning or Rodon in 2020. 

They realistically SHOULD be signing or trading for a decent SP upgrade as well.

Lucas

???

Cease

Lopez

Gio

To start with.  Then somewhere after a couple months Kopech takes Gio's spot.  We also have Rodon.  So I'm assuming he is going to be more of a swingman than anything as long as we don't get a bad injury.

It makes signing Ryu more bearable if nothing else.

He is a good addition.  I had him in my plan to start the year in the rotation and then piggyback with Kopech when he comes up.  

11 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’ve got Kopech in there. I’m not expecting much of anything from Dunning or Rodon in 2020. 

He's toast.  Over under on career WAR from this point from him is probably 5.  

 

25 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

And FG projects Nova at 1.3 fWAR for 2020.  WAR is a counting stat - and they project Gio to throw 150 IP.  Nova pitched nearly 200 last year.  FG has Nova at 165 IP on the 1.3 fWAR projection.    So, in other words, they prefer Gio.  

That's not so simple. For those innings Gio won't pitch, who do you propose pitching them?

7 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:

He is a good addition.  I had him in my plan to start the year in the rotation and then piggyback with Kopech when he comes up.  

I write my lineups on napkins 1x/week

27 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

And guess what Nova’s steamer projection is?

I think Steamer projected Nova to be a steamer

It is indeed a 1 yr deal.

Get DK and then add Walker. I like the upside of Walker.

i believe that this move is the beginning of plan b/c/d whatever is moving forward. i expect more moves in the couple days. hopefully bigger news

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Gross

You dislike this?  Way better than most of the alternatives for the 5th starter spot like Nova.  Assuming it’s a one year deal I’m a big fan of this.

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This is a move I really don't like for the 2nd starter spot, but in reality it's probably not much worse or better than any of the other bums.

Why don’t you like this?  Who would you have preferred?

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You dislike this?  Way better than most of the alternatives for the 5th starter spot like Nova.  Assuming it’s a one year deal I’m a big fan of this.

Yes, definitely better than Nova...  as long as Hahn is still in on Ryu/Keuchel.

Surprised anyone would think it would be anything but a one year deal.  Gio is 34.

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You dislike this?  Way better than most of the alternatives for the 5th starter spot like Nova.  Assuming it’s a one year deal I’m a big fan of this.

I can see you tried just reading the 1st few posts then commenting instead of your usual way of reading the whole thread.  LOL you get burned either way when you are late to the news.

Fathom already said it's better upon review of his stats.  I was going to suggest he then delete his 1st post , decided not too . Oh well

 

I'd be cool with another 6.5 WAR season ala 2017.

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

How anyone could be mad about this move is just so silly.  

I really hope no one is mad about this.  He was one of the better 5th starter options available and provides more certainty than other interesting guys like Wood & Walker.  This may be a reach, but this signing makes me think that Ryu might be in play.  Adding stability at the back-end of the rotation allows you take on more risk with the #2 spot.

12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why don’t you like this?  Who would you have preferred?

I'm sure you've caught up on the thread but I had thought gio had been much worse than he actually was.

I like the move after seeing that.

everything is going to start falling into place.  Haters going to hate

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I can see you tried just reading the 1st few posts then commenting instead of your usual way of reading the whole thread.  LOL you get burned either way when you are late to the news.

Fathom already said it's better upon review of his stats.  I was going to suggest he then delete his 1st post , decided not too . Oh well

I know I just did the same thing but decided to hold offfrom posting  until I read it all this time.  Lol

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by smellysox

7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I really hope no one is mad about this.  He was one of the better 5th starter options available and provides more certainty than other interesting guys like Wood & Walker.  This may be a reach, but this signing makes me think that Ryu might be in play.  Adding stability at the back-end of the rotation allows you take on more risk with the #2 spot.

If a team offers Ryu 4 years, it won’t be the Sox.  I think Keuchel is more likely due to him being younger and having less of an injury history than Ryu.

But there is no excuse not to sign one of them.  Mazara is cheap and Gio will be $5 to $10 million.

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan

37 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

They realistically SHOULD be signing or trading for a decent SP upgrade as well.

Lucas

???

Cease

Lopez

Gio

To start with.  Then somewhere after a couple months Kopech takes Gio's spot.  We also have Rodon.  So I'm assuming he is going to be more of a swingman than anything as long as we don't get a bad injury.

It makes signing Ryu more bearable if nothing else.

pa·tience

/ˈpāSHəns/

noun

• 1.the capacity to accept or tolerate delay, trouble, or suffering without getting angry or upset:"you can find bargains if you have the patience to sift through the dross"synonymsforbearance, tolerance, restraint, self-restraint, resignation, ... moreantonymsimpatience
• 2.any of various forms of card game for one player, the object of which is to use up all one's cards by forming particular arrangements and sequences; solitaire.

3 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said:

pa·tience

/ˈpāSHəns/

noun

• 1.the capacity to accept or tolerate delay, trouble, or suffering without getting angry or upset:"you can find bargains if you have the patience to sift through the dross"synonymsforbearance, tolerance, restraint, self-restraint, resignation, ... moreantonymsimpatience
• 2.any of various forms of card game for one player, the object of which is to use up all one's cards by forming particular arrangements and sequences; 

 What does my post have anything to do with not being patient?

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by BackDoorBreach

15 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

Been reading the fake Bruce Levine twitter too much, thought it was him... he has the "wh sox" and " ." down lol