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Steve Stone: more bullpen help is coming

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Collins is more likely to be moved and has more value than McCann for a bullpen arm. Iglesias could be a useful arm in return. The Reds might see him being expendable for a long term C like Collins.

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  • Worth noting that with regard to his outspokenness, he is still without a job.

  • I've never understood the desire to get rid of McCann or Collins, since, you know, we don't need to.

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    Trading 6 years of collins when mccann is a FA next year is a tatis tier move. a 2 fWAR starting catcher should yield a RP better than the scraps that were available this offseason. (see Tampa)

11 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I have read in a couple of places he is definitely available,  and they need a catcher.

All the Cubans.

4 minutes ago, beck72 said:

Collins is more likely to be moved and has more value than McCann for a bullpen arm. Iglesias could be a useful arm in return. The Reds might see him being expendable for a long term C like Collins.

I’m all about trading Collins because I do not see a fit long term here with the Sox but not for him, he has more value then a utility infielder who will only start for a couple weeks.

49 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said:

MLBExecutiveBurner is so fake that it hurts.

Fake in that they don't have inside info? Perhaps. They do seem to have a grip on general baseball intelligence and if they're making shit up at least it is thought provoking. I don't love the burner account that's developed on Twitter but this account in particular doesn't bother me.

16 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Could have said the same thing about McCann last year.

Or with the Astros and JDM a few years back.

Three weeks til Sox Fest and six weeks until Spring Training.  Time to get the last pieces in place.  Maybe there will be some bargains available soon.  Puig is a good possibility as is Sanchez.

2 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Three weeks til Sox Fest and six weeks until Spring Training.  Time to get the last pieces in place.  Maybe there will be some bargains available soon.  Puig is a good possibility as is Sanchez.

I think if the Sox wanted Sanchez back, they would’ve already resigned him by now.

2 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

I think if the Sox wanted Sanchez back, they would’ve already resigned him by now.

We were resigned to him for a couple years already. 

4 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Three weeks til Sox Fest and six weeks until Spring Training.  Time to get the last pieces in place.  Maybe there will be some bargains available soon.  Puig is a good possibility as is Sanchez.

I am going to be kinda disappointed if Sox sign Puig. Just let Mazara do his thing. With Robert up day one, Leury gets less reps - let him get the platoon oops. Sign a 2B like Brad Miller, Brock Holt or Zobrist and go to battle. 

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I am going to be kinda disappointed if Sox sign Puig. Just let Mazara do his thing. With Robert up day one, Leury gets less reps - let him get the platoon oops. Sign a 2B like Brad Miller, Brock Holt or Zobrist and go to battle. 

You know you want Castellanos :)

6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I am going to be kinda disappointed if Sox sign Puig. Just let Mazara do his thing. With Robert up day one, Leury gets less reps - let him get the platoon oops. Sign a 2B like Brad Miller, Brock Holt or Zobrist and go to battle. 

I agree with you.  My belief is that Mazara was brought in to be the full time right fielder.  Puig is intriguing because of the Cuban connection and probable low price tag.  Can't help but be curious if Jose & Yoan could unlock Puig's potential.

Just now, fathom said:

You know you want Castellanos :)

I think it’s a terrible fit as I’ve stated many times, but if his market has cratered I won’t complain. If they can get him on like 3/$45M deal it would be fun for 2020, but I just hope they plan to trade him next offseason if it’s more than a 1 year deal. But I cannot imagine a 1 year deal being possibility worth discussing. 

That said, I don’t think the Sox acquired Mazara to not play and I don’t think they’ll give Castellanos the 4 years and close to $70M it will require to be a platoon player. And I don’t think they signed EE to do anything less than DH as much as he’s able. It’s the ultimate example of forcing a fit. 

14 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

I think if the Sox wanted Sanchez back, they would’ve already resigned him by now.

Sanchez needs time to realize 6 million isn't in his future.  Patience grasshopper.?

51 minutes ago, beck72 said:

Collins is more likely to be moved and has more value than McCann for a bullpen arm. Iglesias could be a useful arm in return. The Reds might see him being expendable for a long term C like Collins.

I think the Reds are going to compete and would want to keep Iglesias

29 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

I think if the Sox wanted Sanchez back, they would’ve already resigned him by now.

Kind of like when they signed Gordon Beckham at SoxFest after just recently dumping him in the season prior.

25 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I am going to be kinda disappointed if Sox sign Puig. Just let Mazara do his thing. With Robert up day one, Leury gets less reps - let him get the platoon oops. Sign a 2B like Brad Miller, Brock Holt or Zobrist and go to battle. 

If the Sox sign Puig it is because nobody in MLB finds value in Puig. 

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

Has EE been back to the US since his fathers funeral? 

Not that I have seen.  Hasn't yet been 2 weeks since it was announced, though I'd expect it fairly soon.

1 hour ago, Lillian said:

This acquisition of Fernandez could simply be about organizational depth. McCann will likely be gone by 2021, at the latest. Having a solid defensive catcher in the system, makes sense. It's premature to read much more into this move. We'll see. Has this move even been officially reported? I can't seem to find anything, to confirm it.

He’s a minor league free agent, I don’t think we’d have control of Fernandez after the 2020 season unless he agrees to it.  This is a move about 2020 and with Collins, Zavala, & Mercedes already in the catching mix, this does suggest a corresponding move is coming.

30 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I am going to be kinda disappointed if Sox sign Puig. Just let Mazara do his thing. With Robert up day one, Leury gets less reps - let him get the platoon oops. Sign a 2B like Brad Miller, Brock Holt or Zobrist and go to battle. 

Same here.  I want no part of Puig.  Didn't want him before Mazara, and is definitely a poor fit now.  On top of Puig's red flags.

40 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

I think if the Sox wanted Sanchez back, they would’ve already resigned him by now.

SoxFest surprise...

36 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

SoxFest surprise...

That would be like getting coal in your stocking.

44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He’s a minor league free agent, I don’t think we’d have control of Fernandez after the 2020 season unless he agrees to it.  This is a move about 2020 and with Collins, Zavala, & Mercedes already in the catching mix, this does suggest a corresponding move is coming.

If Fernandez is good on defense, I think it does.  If the Sox were to trade McCann, they would be very thin at defensive backstop with Collins, Mercedes, and Zavala.  None of those three is known for their catching skills.

Stammen re-signed with the Padres

Another option down

What the hell is with these old as shit relievers getting 3 year deals?

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He’s a minor league free agent, I don’t think we’d have control of Fernandez after the 2020 season unless he agrees to it.  This is a move about 2020 and with Collins, Zavala, & Mercedes already in the catching mix, this does suggest a corresponding move is coming.

I'm not sure that I understand the rule, regarding the signing of a Minor League free agent. Could you please clarify exactly what the Sox would need to do, in order to keep Fernandez in the organization?

1 hour ago, Moan4Yoan said:

That would be like getting coal in your stocking.

There will be plenty of Sox fans excited though.  I don’t dislike him personally, just don’t think his skillset is optimal for this roster.

3 hours ago, GermanSoxFan said:

MLBExecutiveBurner is so fake that it hurts.

Probably,  but the proof will be how MLB penalizes Houston. His prediction is a lot harder than most. If the penalty is anywhere near what he predicts, I will believe he is a lot closer to what he claims to be than the consensus right now.

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