Sorry for the delay on this, but crazy day at work and totally forgot I started yesterday’s game-thread.

Normally I’d like do a small write-up on the match-up, but for the sake of time I’m simply going to say:  FUCK A TIGER & LET’S GO BOYS!!

 

Grandal and Robert should be switched but whatever, keep batting arguably our best player right now 7th.  Also, the big trade acquisition (half assed one) batting 8th, our stud RF, just cracks me up.  So many Hahn half measures in RF man.

Edited August 17, 20205 yr by chitownsportsfan

Just now, chitownsportsfan said:

Grandal and Robert should be switched but whatever, keep batting arguably our best player right now 7th.

Not a fan of Yoan and Grandal back to back against a LHP

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Grandal and Robert should be switched but whatever, keep batting arguably our best player right now 7th.  Also, the big trade acquisition (half assed one) batting 8th, our stud RF, just cracks me up.  So many Hahn half measures in RF man.

He was basically always pegged to hit 8th, no?

Can we consider this a must-win game? Sox need to step up and destroy this inferior team this week.

1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said:

He was basically always pegged to hit 8th, no?

Our lineup is theoretically stacked, so not sure why anyone would expect him to bat higher.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Our lineup is theoretically stacked, so not sure why anyone would expect him to bat higher.

I mean if he's going to bat 8th in a "stacked lineup" it kinda calls into question trading for an all offense (in theory, in practice: yikes) RF.

Anyways, go Sox!

I will say the fact Ricky makes zero adjustments to his lineup when facing a RHP or LHP should be a fireable offense on its own.  Dude doesn’t have a strategic bone in his body.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I mean if he's going to bat 8th in a "stacked lineup" it kinda calls into question trading for an all offense (in theory, in practice: yikes) RF.

Anyways, go Sox!

I totally get the fit argument and while I wasn’t a fan of the acquisition, him batting higher than 8th means he’s blown up or things have gone horribly wrong with Abrue or EE.  Either way, let’s hope he wakes up soon, because he’s more or less useful if he’s not hitting hitting some bombs.

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

Not a fan of Yoan and Grandal back to back against a LHP

McCann needs to play against lefties . Sorry EE  but can't wait for you to get it together forever. Need wins. Go with the hot guy . Also Robert should be ahead of EE. Show some damm urgency instead of this veteran preference BS.

22 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

McCann needs to play against lefties . Sorry EE  but can't wait for you to get it together forever. Need wins. Go with the hot guy . Also Robert should be ahead of EE. Show some damm urgency instead of this veteran preference BS.

Obviously McCann isn't highly thought of by the people running the White Sox. I wouldn't be surprised if he was traded before the season ended.

It's absolutely insane that McCann isn't in the lineup. He is sporting a 1.010 OPS currently, and a 1.443 OPS against lefties. Yes, small sample size, but he still needs to play against a lefty.

2 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

It's absolutely insane that McCann isn't in the lineup. He is sporting a 1.010 OPS currently, and a 1.443 OPS against lefties. Yes, small sample size, but he still needs to play against a lefty.

Maybe Ricky doesn’t realize Boyd is a lefty?  It wouldn’t be the first time this year Renteria got a pitcher’s handedness wrong.  I still don’t get how you don’t adjust your lineup at all when facing a lefty.  Maybe it’s not a huge deal, but it just reeks of laziness and a lack of strategic thinking.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Maybe Ricky doesn’t realize Boyd is a lefty?  It wouldn’t be the first time this year Renteria got a pitcher’s handedness wrong.  I still don’t get how you don’t adjust your lineup at all when facing a lefty.  Maybe it’s not a huge deal, but it just reeks of laziness and a lack of strategic thinking.

I don't think you'll ever hear anyone who knows Renteria call him lazy. 

The Sox have done James wrong.  There's no way he's a) content right now and b) going to re-sign here unless we beat everybody else by 20%, which isn't happening.  We had some concerns that Renteria wouldn't be able to properly use what is on paper a poorly balanced roster and they are panning out.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox have done James wrong.  There's no way he's a) content right now and b) going to re-sign here unless we beat everybody else by 20%, which isn't happening.  We had some concerns that Renteria wouldn't be able to properly use what is on paper a poorly balanced roster and they are panning out.

Not that I necessarily disagree because of the way he is hitting right now. However, overall this is a great deal of complaining (not you but everyone) about a player who has a lifetime OPS under .690. If the Sox passed up on Grandal to sign McCann this board would have exploded.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Grandal and Robert should be switched but whatever, keep batting arguably our best player right now 7th.  Also, the big trade acquisition (half assed one) batting 8th, our stud RF, just cracks me up.  So many Hahn half measures in RF man.

Mazara needed to be worked with as a project. Shorten his swing and don't pull the ball. Or just ignore him. 

7 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Not that I necessarily disagree because of the way he is hitting right now. However, overall this is a great deal of complaining (not you but everyone) about a player who has a lifetime OPS under .690. If the Sox passed up on Grandal to sign McCann this board would have exploded.

Well James' bat, at least against LHP, is legit imo.  His swing and approach are just better now.  He proved in September last year he wasn't going to let himself just fall into his old bad habits again.  He's continued to shorten his swing and take a patient approach this year.  It's too bad because it looks like another self scouting failure by Chicago.  They should have locked him for a few years on a team friendly deal, and he probably would have taken a bit of a discount for a 3 year deal last offseason.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Grandal and Robert should be switched but whatever, keep batting arguably our best player right now 7th.  Also, the big trade acquisition (half assed one) batting 8th, our stud RF, just cracks me up.  So many Hahn half measures in RF man.

Actually, I would switch Abreu and EE. Then I'd switch Robert and EE. 

15 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox have done James wrong.  There's no way he's a) content right now and b) going to re-sign here unless we beat everybody else by 20%, which isn't happening.  We had some concerns that Renteria wouldn't be able to properly use what is on paper a poorly balanced roster and they are panning out.

James isn't re-signing here unless we trade Grandal. He isn't staying here to DH or be a backup catcher when some team will pay him to start. 

31 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I don't think you'll ever hear anyone who knows Renteria call him lazy. 

So he’s simply not strategic then?

32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Maybe Ricky doesn’t realize Boyd is a lefty?  It wouldn’t be the first time this year Renteria got a pitcher’s handedness wrong.  I still don’t get how you don’t adjust your lineup at all when facing a lefty.  Maybe it’s not a huge deal, but it just reeks of laziness and a lack of strategic thinking.

In the stat age, I would assume every team has a stat guru in the front office. Terry Franacona's book detailed how managers are provided with individual game stats before every game so the manager knows things like  this righty hits this righty  better than this lefty does.  Either Hahn doesn't utilize individual game scouting or RR is making all the decisions.   

30 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Not that I necessarily disagree because of the way he is hitting right now. However, overall this is a great deal of complaining (not you but everyone) about a player who has a lifetime OPS under .690. If the Sox passed up on Grandal to sign McCann this board would have exploded.

Grandal at DH and McCann catching is better for today's lineup and that is not open for debate.  After the game there could be a debate but EE and Mazara are doing nothing nor have either ever done anything for the White Sox to warrant blind faith in them.   Sucks on Engel. 

12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So he’s simply not strategic then?

Could be, but its not from a lack of work or work ethic as laziness implies.