Just now, fathom said:

He’s significantly worse now than when we got him and when he came up for the Sox.

Cooper has legit failed him as Lopez looked legit when he first came up

1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said:

The soxtalk gamethread experience: Sox are losing, fathom drops a hot take only to be outdone by an even hotter take by Parkman.

I’ve been consistent for three years about Madrigal. 

I doubt there will be another, but I’m not watching ReyLo starts anymore. 

Just now, harkness99 said:

You must have missed his lollipop throw to 2nd that should have cost us a run... and the error he just made that allowed 2 runs to score.

Remember when Yolmer made a couple of errors in the early part of the season and still won the gold glove in a landslide? Bad plays happen.

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Very overrated aspect of his game, same as his speed. He does have a great hit tool.

He graded out at 60 on both fielding and running....by people who scouted him extensively.  He's played in, what, 10-15 ML games?  A little early for "very overrated", imo.  

Yikes.  Come on Ross

10 hours ago, TomPickle said:

Detwiler only throwing to one batter last night will make a lot more sense when he has to come in after the second inning tonight and throw 3 innings.

How lucky are we that Detwiler joined us an out earlier than expected?!

Just now, fathom said:

I’ve been consistent for three years about Madrigal. 

You’ve been consistent, but one dumb defensive play has nothing to do with his ceiling though

2 minutes ago, Orlando said:

I feel for Lopez. Sad to see what he’s become. Sad to watch him walk off the mound like he did. Time to move on

What i was thinking. He had so much potential when he first came here. He had an upper 90s fastball, his curve was just a hammer as the other poster mentioned, and if I remember correctly he had a fantastic straight change as his primary offspeed/putaway pitch. I wonder what happened. 

Edited September 3, 20205 yr by ScooterMcGee

2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

This is his, what, 5th year in the majors? 4th maybe? This is who he is

Technically its the fifth year he has appeared in the majors, but the first two were essentially cups of tea. He has had two full years, and one of them was actually pretty good, and now three appearances in the fifth. I wouldn't call that five years in the majors.

Just now, fathom said:

I’ve been consistent for three years about Madrigal. 

I just didn't want Singer, but I wasn't crazy about Madrigal. Harold's Leg Lift and I are on the same page with regard to scouting. 

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Cooper has legit failed him as Lopez looked legit when he first came up

You can see his stuff from time to time but just not enough of it. He’s simply not a major league pitcher and at this point his confidence is just dog shit, you can see it everytime he takes the bump

Where'd all the pregame ReyLo optimists go?? You were wrong about something completely beyond your control and now I want to punish you by making you feel bad!!!!!

7 minutes ago, Soxfest said:

Nothing changed with the Sox in Minnesota 

I think it has. Not arguing by the way.   Monday night is a game they lose in recent years.  Last night could have gone either way.  Just my opinion 

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

I just didn't want Singer, but I wasn't crazy about Madrigal. Harold's Leg Lift and I are on the same page with regard to scouting. 

You mean the same scouting expertise that gave us the Eloy/Delmon Young comp?

It feels like we are in the 7th inning

Ross is going to have to work at least 3 innings... this pen is gassed

Detweiler strands a pair.  He’s gonna have to eat some innings tonight...

1 minute ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

He graded out at 60 on both fielding and running....by people who scouted him extensively.  He's played in, what, 10-15 ML games?  A little early for "very overrated", imo.  

Those two aspects don't generally come and go though. Usually its what you see is what it is. Not like pitching or hitting.

Just now, BigHurt3515 said:

It feels like we are in the 7th inning

Yeah cause the Sox have thrown something like 60 pitches.

Just now, Soxnfins said:

Ross is going to have to work at least 3 innings... this pen is gassed

I’m sniffing a Yolmer Sanchez 8th inning relief appearance 

3 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

He graded out at 60 on both fielding and running....by people who scouted him extensively.  He's played in, what, 10-15 ML games?  A little early for "very overrated", imo.  

But Parkman and Harold "are on the same page with scouting" so HA

 

3 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said:

I doubt there will be another, but I’m not watching ReyLo starts anymore. 

Yeah man, if he pitches again I'll go spray weeds or something. He blows

Look at how explosive his stuff was before the Sox got him

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B0Hu_jMfd3w

3 minutes ago, harkness99 said:

You must have missed his lollipop throw to 2nd that should have cost us a run... and the error he just made that allowed 2 runs to score.

Let's use sample size he has an .806 OPS.  I dont think he will live up to 4th pick but many on this site have him behind Yolmer in baseball ability.