No, this tweet is not from 2014

I'm trying to think about what this means for the market. $11 million for a guy with 26 innings last year (great innings, but his first quality work since 2015) is ridiculous for what we've been told is a depressed market. Is spending gonna be higher than we anticipated?

That is a crazy number in a good year.

This may be an indication of where the Sox are focusing their attention to if they don’t sign any low tier pitchers. We shall see.

Edited November 16, 20205 yr by maloney.adam

5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

This may be an indication of where the Sox are focusing their attention to if they don’t sign any low tier pitchers. We shall see.

Or an indication they will trade for pitching if mediocre guys are getting this much 

Just now, fathom said:

Or an indication they will trade for pitching if mediocre guys are getting this much 

Drew Smyly  1yr/$11M

Lance Lynn 1yr/$9.33M

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Or an indication they will trade for pitching if mediocre guys are getting this much 

You should read the responses to the tweet. Braves fans not happy. Lol

Edited November 16, 20205 yr by maloney.adam

5 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Drew Smyly  1yr/$11M

Lance Lynn 1yr/$9.33M

You are missing part of that equation for the White Sox.

That seems like an awful lot.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

You are missing part of that equation for the White Sox.

I think people need to start getting comfortable that some of their favorite prospects won’t be around come next year

1 minute ago, fathom said:

I think people need to start getting comfortable that some of their favorite prospects won’t be around come next year

Agreed. As long as those prospects aren't Vaughn or Kopech, I'll probably be happy. They can trade any of Cease, Madrigal, Stiever, Collins, Adolfo, and *maybe* one of the Dalquist/Thompson/Kelley tier if it means they're getting a significant upgrade

Maybe Atlanta feels pretty confident that a closer to normal 162 game  season is possible with news of (now 2) vaccines ready for public release sometime 1st quarter.

So normal to bigger salaries maybe easier to handle. 

Edited November 16, 20205 yr by smellysox

12 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Drew Smyly  1yr/$11M

Lance Lynn 1yr/$9.33M

The Sox aren't trading for Lance Lynn

9 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Agreed. As long as those prospects aren't Vaughn or Kopech, I'll probably be happy. They can trade any of Cease, Madrigal, Stiever, Collins, Adolfo, and *maybe* one of the Dalquist/Thompson/Kelley tier if it means they're getting a significant upgrade

Also feels like this deal makes it far less likely the Sox are able to fill all their holes via free agency (on below market deals).

7 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

The Sox aren't trading for Lance Lynn

Does Texas trade him ? They would be foolish not to trade him. Their team is in shambles.

I mean ... If I had to take a guess, I would've said $1yr, $4-6mm. To each their own though. I'd rather have Rich Hill. 

Braves are gonna Brave. ?Why? Why do this so early in the process for a guy that will surely be available late december/early january?  Since they are my adopted NL team due to proximity (8 mins away), I am starting to understand why they never get over the top 

wow.. That's ugly

What does that mean for Quintana?

This reminds me a bit of the pomeranz deal last year. Soxtalk was equally angry. But if the scouts/analysts in Atlanta thought that there were real changes from Smyly realized last year, they were probably not the only ones. I'm not sure it means that much for quintana or any others, many of which teams are planning on slow decline, and have many peers but not that many teams.

I think its pretty clear, at least on the pitching side, that these bargain basement AAVs aren't going to happen like some projected.  

6 minutes ago, bmags said:

This reminds me a bit of the pomeranz deal last year. Soxtalk was equally angry. But if the scouts/analysts in Atlanta thought that there were real changes from Smyly realized last year, they were probably not the only ones. I'm not sure it means that much for quintana or any others, many of which teams are planning on slow decline, and have many peers but not that many teams.

A bit, sure, but Pomeranz at least had a track record of health. I didn't think his deal was as outrageous as this one, primarily for that reason. 

4 minutes ago, bmags said:

This reminds me a bit of the pomeranz deal last year. Soxtalk was equally angry. But if the scouts/analysts in Atlanta thought that there were real changes from Smyly realized last year, they were probably not the only ones. I'm not sure it means that much for quintana or any others, many of which teams are planning on slow decline, and have many peers but not that many teams.

There was a piece in FG a few weeks ago about how Smileys fast ball velocity ticked up and accordingly, he was mentioned as potentially undervalued. Not anymore.

1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said:

A bit, sure, but Pomeranz at least had a track record of health. I didn't think his deal was as outrageous as this one, primarily for that reason. 

Hence the one year deal. People were outraged at length for pomeranz and now money for Smiley. Both indicated competition. This didn't come out of no where.

I don't watch the giants ever, but his curve usage goes way up, becomes a huge swing and miss generator, the giants figured out some tunneling thing or something with him and that's repeatable.

Zaidi's choices in SF have been confusing, but they have had some decent wins in player turnarounds with smyly and gausman.

Hopefully this is more of a situation where the Braves wanted their guy versus this is what the market is going to look like.