Thoughts? I wouldn’t hate a Gray/Garrett combo deal if the price was right.

Not particularly interested in Garrett, but Steiver + a lotto ticket for Gray seems like a reasonable move if the Reds were interested in that.

Sanguine.

Fav move would still be Darvish in terms of trade.

29 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

Not particularly interested in Garrett, but Steiver + a lotto ticket for Gray seems like a reasonable move if the Reds were interested in that.

Reds would want significantly more though. They’d probably want a MLB piece

40 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

Not particularly interested in Garrett, but Steiver + a lotto ticket for Gray seems like a reasonable move if the Reds were interested in that.

The Reds are going to want legit pieces if they move Gray.  I’d wager Cease, Heuer, plus another interesting piece is the least they’d consider.

The Reds got Gray for a decent prospect and a comp round pick. And while he had a down year in NY, he was only a year removed from being an  "ace" (well, he never really was, but that was the reputation).   Now he's got this high price tag?

6 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

The Reds got Gray for a decent prospect and a comp round pick. And while he had a down year in NY, he was only a year removed from being an  "ace" (well, he never really was, but that was the reputation).   Now he's got this high price tag?

He had a very good 2020 and got a really cheap contract extension since being traded. Signed through 2022 at about 10 mil per year.

Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Orlando

Shorter pitchers past the age of 30 scare me. It's probably an unfair assumption, but it feels like the shorter pitchers don't age as well. It reminds me of Tim Lincecum.

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12 minutes ago, Orlando said:

He had a very good 2020 and got a really cheap contract extension since being traded. Signed through 2022 at about 10 mil per year.

I guess that's it.  And yet the Reds are peddling him. The Sox just don't have a deep enough farm, despite 5 years of high picks,  to do these trades.  They trade Cease and Stiever and get 1 injury and they're scrounging again.   They don't have anyone to trade on the ML roster either; yea, they could trade Engel, but they could also use him in a nice RF platoon, and if he makes another step up, as he has the last 2 seasons, he's a ML regular.   They need to use FA.

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Garrett would be a nice addition...Winker wouldn’t be a bad RF platoon option either. Career .915 OPS in 848 career PA’s against RH. Reds have  Castellanos, Aquino, Senzel and Akiyama capable of playing OF already. 
 

Reds don’t have a decent current C option that I’m aware of. Possible home for Collins?

Cease, Collins, Foster, and a Rutherford/Sheets/Micker type prospect for Gray and Winker?

If this is the price nevermind.......

https://twitter.com/PortillosHambu1/status/1335361750821203973?s=20

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mistake on link

20 minutes ago, Wisebri224 said:

If this is the price nevermind.......

https://twitter.com/PortillosHambu1/status/1335361750821203973?s=20

Yeah, not a chance I'd move Kopech OR Madrigal for Gray, let alone both AND Heuer.

2 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Thoughts? I wouldn’t hate a Gray/Garrett combo deal if the price was right.

Garrett doesn't make sense to me. The have Bummer, (tendered) Fry, and (potentially) Crochet. I don't think you try to trade for an additional lefty option for the pen. If depth is that much of a concern, I'm sure there are plenty of available LHP options that are FA right now that they can bring in as ST invitees. Unless they are that concerned about Bummer, but he looked fine to me after coming back.

Read they want a current or young Mlb ready shortstop. So we don’t line up.

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23 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Read they want a current or young Mlb ready shortstop. So we don’t line up.

Madrigal, I am sure could play SS.

Give me Garrett for the muscle. Ain't nobody fuckin with us in a brawl.

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

Give me Garrett for the muscle. Ain't nobody fuckin with us in a brawl.

He’s fascinating as hell...amazing interview and great hoops player 

2 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Garrett doesn't make sense to me. The have Bummer, (tendered) Fry, and (potentially) Crochet. I don't think you try to trade for an additional lefty option for the pen. If depth is that much of a concern, I'm sure there are plenty of available LHP options that are FA right now that they can bring in as ST invitees. Unless they are that concerned about Bummer, but he looked fine to me after coming back.

It makes sense if they're planning on moving Bummer into the closer role. With eight man bullpens, three lefties in the bullpen isn't necessarily that bad of an idea either way. Fry as the top lefty set up man would be slightly questionable. Fry would become the expendable one out of those three if that were considered an excess.

2 hours ago, hi8is said:

Read they want a current or young Mlb ready shortstop. So we don’t line up.

Mendick ! Crazy because I said this as a joke but I guarantee you some poster will think even Mendick is  too steep lol

Its sad but I just don't think we have the depth to trade prospects. 

Unless we sign springer (all in move) I don't want to trade prospects for a pitcher. Just sign one or two.

1 minute ago, Capital G said:

Its sad but I just don't think we have the depth to trade prospects. 

Unless we sign springer (all in move) I don't want to trade prospects for a pitcher. Just sign one or two.

I also don’t see the logic in trading for relievers when the relief market should be suppressed this offseason.

10 hours ago, Cashman said:

Madrigal, I am sure could play SS.

A Madrigal/Moustakis DP combo is something the world needs to see.