6 minutes ago, Steve9347 said:

What on earth am I reading here. This is Dane Dunning ffs. Hahn turned Jose Quintana into Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease. Am I in the twilight zone?

Hahn traded Adam Eaton for 2/5ths of our 2021 starting staff...plus Lopez.

A win by any measure.

1 minute ago, Dam8610 said:

I'm upset because I see a lot of Shane Bieber in Dane Dunning.

^^^^^^

So for the record, this is a Tony deal and not a KW deal or a Hahn deal?

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

I don’t think anyone really is saying the sky is falling. It’s just a poor value move and further exhibits the Sox unwillingness to just spend money rather than using valuable assets to acquire underpaid players. It’s gross. 

This. No sane person can miss how good Lynn is. But the Sox best seasons are still 2 to 5 years down the road with this core.

Sox fans will NEVER change. 

1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 

2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. 

 

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

They got him for the postseason and to save the bullpen during the season. 

I don't like trading a solid prospect for an old few month rental, with a 4.8 Playoff ERA.

And for the record, Kenny or Hahn have little to no say at this point, just like they had little to no say in the LaRussa debacle. They collect their checks and keep their mouth shut and smile on cue.

Edited December 8, 20205 yr by South Side Hit Men

If we need Lynn to pass the medicals then dont put him on a scale

6 years of a solid #3+ for 1 year of a 34 year old that had a career year in 2019...?

this is a potential 15+ WAR lopsided trade. Throwing in Gallo is the only way its close to an even trade

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Kill. Me. Now. La russa making calls. Lynn will be trash and Dunning a Cy winner now.

When did you become Jack Parkman?

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn?  They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill.

You mean trade more prospect capital for?

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn?  They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill.

Because our owner is Jerry Reinsdorf?

Giolito Dunning and Lopez for Eaton looks a ton better than swapping Dunning for 1 year of Lynn

1 minute ago, scotty22hotty said:

6 years of a solid #3+ for 1 year of a 34 year old that had a career year in 2019...?

this is a potential 15+ WAR lopsided trade. Throwing in Gallo is the only way its close to an even trade

Yep. 

2 minutes ago, Tony said:

Sox fans will NEVER change. 

1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 

2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. 

 

I’m happy they traded Dunning instead of Cease.  I’d rather keep the higher ceiling guy.  Like you mentioned, Dunning is not someone who was going to be a reason they succeed or fail.

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn?  They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill.

People are out of their minds. It's a good trade for both sides - especially if Hahn gets an extension done. 

Haha Dane dunning cy young now. Unbelievable. His ceiling is SP3. And that’s not hard to replace with the younger pitching arms we have coming up and/or free agency. 

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn?  They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill.

Keep kicking that can down the road. 

1 minute ago, Tony said:

Sox fans will NEVER change. 

1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 

2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. 

 

They SHOULD sign Bauer, that was the whole point of this rebuild. To go out and BUY the last pieces to stack on the cost controlled core. Sacrificing cost controlled assets for rentals is strictly counterintuitive to the entire concept. Keep Dunning, sign Bauer, dominate. Why is that hard?

5 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

The beauty is an extension for 2 seasons should be very reasonable money wise as well. That is the silver lining to this. 5 years of dunning for 3 of Lynn eases the blow to all those whining. 

I agree. I don’t get all the complaining. We just acquired a number 2 starter for someone that we don’t know where he’s going to be a couple years from now. His value was already high as is. 

Edited December 8, 20205 yr by maloney.adam

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

So for the record, this is a Tony deal and not a KW deal or a Hahn deal?

So he's hijacking the FOs role too? 

Lmao

4 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said:

Quintana was an extremely valuable commodity at the time and there were numerous suitors. This trade we maybe win the trade next year and lose substantially after that. If he were an ace I’d be ok, but “This is Lance Lynn ffs”.

My brother moved to NC a while ago. Did you grow up in Aurora?

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

You mean trade more prospect capital for?

Sure, I don’t know why anyone expected different. As Tony said, the Bauer dream was never ever going to happen.

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

When did you become Jack Parkman?

Shelby Miller wants his career back.

Yikers

 

Edited December 8, 20205 yr by South Side Hit Men