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Jose Abreu - This is the End?

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Beautiful friend, the end...

Jose with the lowest OPS of his career. Chw42 posted a very interesting stat yesterday. 

Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH this year: .158 BA and .237 SLG. 

Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH last year: .371 BA and .857 SLG.

Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH in 2019: .348 BA and .623 SLG. 

Jose's bat just seems noticeably slower this year. He absolutely can't catch up to fastballs 95+ this year. The Sox really need his bat if they want to compete this year. It's very concerning. 

hard to believe pitchers throw him anything but fastballs at this point

if Abreu had been trending down vs the fastball over the last few seasons I would say you were onto something

it's much more likely that he's playing with some sort of mild injury, likely an oblique or something vs he just can't hit fastballs anymore

Edited by joesaiditstrue

2 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said:

if Abreu had been trending down vs the fastball over the last few seasons I would say you were into something

it's much more likely that he's playing with some sort of mild injury, likely an oblique or something vs he just can't hit fastballs anymore

cant imagine these lineups with him on the IL, what a brutal fucking year health wise

ronn trying to get abreu going again/

 I think we need more knee jerk reactions.

Predictable...except for attempting to ruin an iconic Doors song.

Edited by caulfield12

Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt.  He's just going through the troll motions now.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt.  He's just going through the troll motions now.

I regret giving him the fire power to fuel his Abreu hate. 

i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff.

No.

57 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff.

ron has been saying abreu sucks for 7 years... its a tradition

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2 hours ago, reiks12 said:

i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff.

Thank you. Plenty of people here let their unconscious bias get in the way of the facts I posted. How is that not worrisome to Sox fans?? The stat is just ugly. 

Abreu is hitting .251/.330/.404 vs RHP with a 105 wRC+. That's not going to get it done. 

1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Abreu is hitting .251/.330/.404 vs RHP with a 105 wRC+. That's not going to get it done. 

Maybe from your bench guys, but not your starting 1B MVP 3 hole/cleanup hitter. Nope.

Jose had COVID in the offseason correct?  Is it possible he's going through the same thing Moncada did last year?  I know he said he was asymptomatic back in Feb. but maybe that could part of the reason for his mediocre offense.

3 minutes ago, SoxFanForever said:

Jose had COVID in the offseason correct?  Is it possible he's going through the same thing Moncada did last year?  I know he said he was asymptomatic back in Feb. but maybe that could part of the reason for his mediocre offense.

Honestly?

He looks like he is pressing.  When the team is going bad, he expands his zone to try to get hits in key situations.  I see him going after a lot of junk in the left handers batters box instead of forcing pitchers to come to him.  He is trying to put this team on his back.

6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly?

He looks like he is pressing.  When the team is going bad, he expands his zone to try to get hits in key situations.  I see him going after a lot of junk in the left handers batters box instead of forcing pitchers to come to him.  He is trying to put this team on his back.

I can see that.  Also losing his protection in Eloy and having to face a variety of teams besides the Central are also probably playing a factor.

1 minute ago, SoxFanForever said:

I can see that.  Also losing his protection in Eloy and having to face a variety of teams besides the Central are also probably playing a factor.

It is a statement of how much he trusts the hitters behind him for sure.  When Eloy is back there, he takes his walks.

He isn’t catching up to the fastballs and is expanding the zone more so than ever swinging at breaking balls way outside. Hope he can turn it around.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

It is a statement of how much he trusts the hitters behind him for sure.  When Eloy is back there, he takes his walks.

Except Abreu is posting his highest BB% yet in a season where Eloy hasn't been behind him all year.

19 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt.  He's just going through the troll motions now.

Is he not out of options yet? Seems like it might be time for DFA.

28 minutes ago, raBBit said:

Except Abreu is posting his highest BB% yet in a season where Eloy hasn't been behind him all year.

And two of those have come in the last two weeks.

Expanding walks by month:

April 12

May 9

June 3

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And two of those have come in the last two weeks.

Expanding walks by month:

April 12

May 9

June 3

Not sure what your point is here. I was just pointing out that your statement that Abreu walks more when Eloy protects him isn't supported by the data.

Just now, raBBit said:

Not sure what your point is here. I was just pointing out that your statement that Abreu walks more when Eloy protects him isn't supported by the data.

As the protection behind him has faded, he has started pressing.

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