1 minute ago, RibbieRubarb said:

I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players.

I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers.

But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes.

I guess congrats are in order for you. 

2020...Wild Card.
2021...Division. 

Next step...League Champ.

Keep moving forward.

Yep

29 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Expecting him to actually listen to their input when it goes against his old school ways is wishful thinking.

Absent evidence that that input actually happened I'm not going to assume it did.

1 minute ago, soulfly said:

Are you saying you are Rick Hahn?

Shhhh, just watch the game.  This Kimbrel guy is fantastic and was 100% the correct move to be made at the deadline.  Process over Performance.

Just now, chw42 said:

I mean game 2 alone was probably lost due to shitty managing, so I don't think that's too much of a reach.

Shitty managing yes but they gave up 9 runs. Not like it was a 5-4 loss. Pitching staff has given up 27 runs in 4 games. You can't win that way.

 

Just now, SoxAce said:

Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get an impact bat for this team is baffling to me.

This is fair as well. He attempted to upgrade the team at the deadline and failed, pretty badly infact. 

Just now, SoxAce said:

Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get a bat for this team is baffling to me.

Of course he was an issue.  He should be embarrassed about the last few months, including the deadline.

Just now, SoxAce said:

Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get an impact bat for this team is baffling to me.

The FO was basically banking on Robert and Eloy. Robert exceeded expectations, but Eloy took a massive step back. Still, that doesn't negate the massive hole we had in RF. 

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I mean game 2 alone was probably lost due to shitty managing, so I don't think that's too much of a reach.

Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away.

Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too.

Just now, BigHurt3515 said:

I think the rainout really zapped the momentum 

Is that what we are calling a TLR night at the bar now?

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

If the Sox fired TLR, I’d love It. But I think we’re talking about like 5% chance. More likely he decides the grind isn’t for him anymore And he gracefully steps Away. Even if Sox wanted him gone, that’s how he’d go. 

Make TLR manager emeritus.  Doesn’t travel with the team.  Sits/naps on the bench, and lets the bench coach manage the games.

1 minute ago, almagest said:

Shitty managing yes but they gave up 9 runs. Not like it was a 5-4 loss. Pitching staff has given up 27 runs in 4 games. You can't win that way.

 

Shitty managing is what made it from a 5-4 game into a 9-4 blow out. 

Just now, chw42 said:

The FO was basically banking on Robert and Eloy. Robert exceeded expectations, but Eloy took a massive step back. Still, that doesn't negate the massive hole we had in RF. 

And banked on Engel way too much

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I am fully convinced that with a better manager this is a 5 game series and I don't know who wins game 5.

Their offense has been dead in the 2 and what looks like 3rd game they've lost. How do you blame TLR for that?

1 minute ago, Tony said:

Again, I don't want to be lectured by you. You've spent years spewing absolute drunken nonsense on this board and we've all put up with it. 

So I don't want to hear from you about post quality. 

Then don’t start shit with me or anyone else, as a mod - your supposed to be better than that.

And still, you keep up the personal attacks - this time towards someone who hasn’t had a drop of alcohol in years.

You brought attention to yourself Tony - so you’re getting it. Be better.

Just now, Balta1701 said:

Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away.

Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too.

So would I....so would I

Just now, chw42 said:

Shitty managing is what made it from a 5-4 game into a 9-4 blow out. 

Shitty managing took it from a 4-2 game with the White Sox having a 71% chance of winning to a 5-4 game.

Just now, fathom said:

And banked on Engel way too much

It's still crazy to me that Engel played less games than Eloy this year. 

3 minutes ago, RibbieRubarb said:

I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players.

I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers.

But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes.

I guess congrats are in order for you. 

2020...Wild Card.
2021...Division. 

Next step...League Champ.

Keep moving forward.

I like this. Next year is the start of the world series contention window. It's the revenge tour.

Just now, RibbieRubarb said:

I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players.

I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers.

But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes.

I guess congrats are in order for you. 

2020...Wild Card.
2021...Division. 

Next step...League Champ.

Keep moving forward.

This team did great this year.

It's infuriating because they could have been better with what they have. Balta has his running list of real obvious blunders by TLR. The team coasted in the second half. 

BUT, TLR was here for October. That was all we were told about. It's why we didn't hire Hinch (who did a great job with Detroit) or go after Bochy. And he's gotten his ass whooped by Dusty Baker.

Grandal calls for way too many fastballs

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away.

Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too.

For sure it would have been a different game.  Needed to go with the veterans.

The Sox will be better next year tha this.

Just now, JuliusO1274 said:

Their offense has been dead in the 2 and what looks like 3rd game they've lost. How do you blame TLR for that?

So you're saying that they are unmotivated and unfocused? Hmmmm, seems like some coaching staff issues.

You can definitely hang 2b and RF on the front office, I'm ok with that part.

Just now, Quin said:

This team did great this year.

It's infuriating because they could have been better with what they have. Balta has his running list of real obvious blunders by TLR. The team coasted in the second half. 

BUT, TLR was here for October. That was all we were told about. It's why we didn't hire Hinch (who did a great job with Detroit) or go after Bochy. And he's gotten his ass whooped by Dusty Baker.

To be fair, Dusty may have single handedly given the White Sox game 3.

Embarrassing play today. Timmy has been so bad defensively of late.