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Sox to talk about Semien with Boras

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1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I wish Freeman was Moncada, and Moncada was Freeman.

Finkle is Einhorn; Einhorn is Finkle! 

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1 hour ago, ron883 said:

Is there any proof behind this, or just a hunch? That would be awful, especially since it doesn't appear to be going anywhere. 

Long Covid is definitely a thing already.

“Members of the Rangers front office recently met with Corey Seager and Marcus Semien in California, The Dallas Morning News’ Evan Grant reports.  Texas was already known to have interest in both free agent shortstops, so the in-person meetings represent the next logical step in the pursuit, especially since the Rangers have also met face-to-face with another available shortstop in Trevor Story.  After five consecutive losing seasons, the Rangers are looking eager to return to contention, and are known to be willing to spend at the highest ends of the free agent market. “
 

-MLB Trade Rumors

 

Damned Rangers… having all the fun.

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

“Members of the Rangers front office recently met with Corey Seager and Marcus Semien in California, The Dallas Morning News’ Evan Grant reports.  Texas was already known to have interest in both free agent shortstops, so the in-person meetings represent the next logical step in the pursuit, especially since the Rangers have also met face-to-face with another available shortstop in Trevor Story.  After five consecutive losing seasons, the Rangers are looking eager to return to contention, and are known to be willing to spend at the highest ends of the free agent market. “
 

-MLB Trade Rumors

 

Damned Rangers… having all the fun.

This just puts them in a slightly better position to lose to the White Sox in the 2023-24 ALDS.

Seager grew up as a Charlotte Knights fan, anyway.

46 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Seager grew up as a Charlotte Knights fan, anyway.

?

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You’re on a role lately brother.

2 hours ago, hi8is said:

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He's actually from Kannapolis, where we have another affiliate.

NASCAR promo with Seager's number on a die cast Sox car giveaway should seal the deal, along with trading for middle brother Justin.

Friends & Family II.

5 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Friends & Family II.

You’re continuing to scare me…. 1984 and a Jay / Yonder repeat sounds horrific.

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

You’re continuing to scare me…. 1984 and a Jay / Yonder repeat sounds horrific.

Well, already living through 1984 here in China.

Maybe you would prefer Murakami novels, Terry Brooks or the Shaara Family (history).


This move would be more out of the Danks brothers, Machado and Klay/Trayce Thompson playbook.

Kyle’s also available, fwiw.  So CERTAINLY two brothers beats a brother in law (Alonso) and cousin (Jay)!!!

Plus relocation expenses from Charlotte to Knights’ Stadium/The Wizard’s Castle or whatever, magically cheap.

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14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Well, already living through 1984 here in China.

Maybe you would prefer Murakami novels, Terry Brooks or the Shaara Family (history).

I’ve been stuck on Bruce Coville after finishing The Princess Bride… my reading now consists of books in this vein aloud to hi8is jr. in an ongoing attempt to keep him off screens.

Not surprising but I saw a blurb that Levine stated yesterday Semien’s contract demands are likely too high for the Sox.  

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

Not surprising but I saw a blurb that Levine stated yesterday Semien’s contract demands are likely too high for the Sox.  

I hope they just go after Escobar instead. Save the money for a RF and a SP.

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4 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

I hope they just go after Escobar instead. Save the money for a RF and a SP.

I’ve been cooling on Simien too - he’s only had 2 years over 100 OPS+

There were past offseasons I wanted Semien - because I thought you would get value. I want nothing to do with Semien this offseason. 

2 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

There were past offseasons I wanted Semien - because I thought you would get value. I want nothing to do with Semien this offseason. 

Nailed it. Love the guy, but the cost is too high. Whoever ponies up will get a really good player and team mate. They'll probably regret the last couple 

of years on his contract as well.

Escobar

Conforto

Bassit / Alacantra

Two Bullpen Arms

… Sounds good to me…

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

Escobar

Conforto

Bassit / Alacantra

Two Bullpen Arms

… Sounds good to me…

Did we really wait a decade to be this excited about two guys we traded away coming back and Conforto coming off a down season where he's just as likely at his age to want a 1-2 year deal to rebuild some of his lost value at age 29 and go back out into the market?

That said, if he doesn't have 4-6 guaranteed years, you have a higher likelihood of getting those really amazing years before he hits his peak and starts the inevitable decline physically.  Can honestly live with that while waiting on the two Cubans and perhaps a position change from our young SS if he keeps growing to OF or 2B.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

if he keeps growing

He’s a big strong boy.  

go get him, stop messing around, this is why we did the re-build so why back away now.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Did we really wait a decade to be this excited about two guys we traded away coming back and Conforto coming off a down season where he's just as likely at his age to want a 1-2 year deal to rebuild some of his lost value at age 29 and go back out into the market?

That said, if he doesn't have 4-6 guaranteed years, you have a higher likelihood of getting those really amazing years before he hits his peak and starts the inevitable decline physically.  Can honestly live with that while waiting on the two Cubans and perhaps a position change from our young SS if he keeps growing to OF or 2B.

Escobar and Bassit are totally different players as they where when we traded them. If you look at the potential value of Semien and Escobar while also weighing both salary as well as timeframe, I think it’s a good argument to have against Marcus.

As for Conforto, he’s other a pillow deal and he’s also worth taking a multi year gamble on.

If we bring in bigger most substantial pieces, great! If something like what I outlined ends up being our off-season, I’ll be happy with that as well.

20 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Escobar and Bassit are totally different players as they where when we traded them. If you look at the potential value of Semien and Escobar while also weighing both salary as well as timeframe, I think it’s a good argument to have against Marcus.

As for Conforto, he’s other a pillow deal and he’s also worth taking a multi year gamble on.

If we bring in bigger most substantial pieces, great! If something like what I outlined ends up being our off-season, I’ll be happy with that as well.

Yep that would be a quality offseason and a better 2022 roster than 2021

5 hours ago, hi8is said:

Escobar

Conforto

Bassit / Alacantra

Two Bullpen Arms

… Sounds good to me…

I like it but wonder what Bassitt would cost? Supposedly he is in high demand.  

Trading for Chris Bassitt is pretty close to the last thing Rick Hahn should do this offseason.

 

Escobar's a good player; it would be great if they can sign him.
I can see the Semien hesitancy....he wants to be paid for those 45 dingers.

 

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8 hours ago, fathom said:

Not surprising but I saw a blurb that Levine stated yesterday Semien’s contract demands are likely too high for the Sox.  

If Bruce said it, I think it's probably accurate. 

Bruce is the other guy the Sox FO goes to when they want to make info public.  

Edited by Jack Parkman

11 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Trading for Chris Bassitt is pretty close to the last thing Rick Hahn should do this offseason.

 

Escobar's a good player; it would be great if they can sign him.
I can see the Semien hesitancy....he wants to be paid for those 45 dingers.

 

Escobar is ok only if they go big elsewhere 

18 minutes ago, fathom said:

Escobar is ok only if they go big elsewhere 

Trouble is, when talking OF, there isn't a lot to go big with.
Marte can really hit, but not much power.
Castellanos can rake, but his D is terrible (at least by the numbers).

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