March 15, 20224 yr Enough about RF, bullpen, starting pitching depth, backup catcher, etc.... Let's talk about Luis Robert. Here's how the Sox' center fielder's second half numbers stacked up against the field if he had been able to do that for a season. Batting average - .350. 1st OBP - .389 6th SLG - .622 1st OPS - 1.011 2nd OPS+ - 170 3rd If he posts this for a season, he's going to be the 2022 AL MVP.
March 15, 20224 yr His total 21 numbers might project to MVP. He'll definitely have to rake in order to beat out Guerrero, whom everyone has decided is the future of the American League. Robert has a big defensive advantage since he is good for 2 wins with his glove, while Guerrero is negative. If Mookie Betts can put up 10 WAR one time, I'm pretty sure Robert can put up 7 mulitple times. He already runs 7.1 WAR/162 and he hasn't really dialed it in yet. If the post-injury guy is the real guy, this is far and away the best CF this team has ever had.
March 15, 20224 yr I said this on another thread, but it's worth repeating. I cringe (literally), every time he makes a headfirst slide - and he usually does.
March 15, 20224 yr Can he stay healthy for a full season? Are the White Sox doing everything they can to keep him healthy? (Proactive rest, working with him to limit risky plays like diving in the OF or sliding into bases? Making sure everyone who plays the OF has good fundamentals to avoid collisions? Having a solid OF alongside him to limit his full speed sprints?)
March 15, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Can he stay healthy for a full season? Are the White Sox doing everything they can to keep him healthy? (Proactive rest, working with him to limit risky plays like diving in the OF or sliding into bases? Making sure everyone who plays the OF has good fundamentals to avoid collisions? Having a solid OF alongside him to limit his full speed sprints?) Doing everything they can to keep him healthy also includes not flanking him on both sides with atrocious defenders.
March 15, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Doing everything they can to keep him healthy also includes not flanking him on both sides with atrocious defenders. See last point.
March 15, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: See last point. Yeah I didn’t catch your last sentence in there, but you addressed it. Keeping Robert healthy, he who is the most important piece to your OF defence, also means putting competent & capable defenders on either side. One clumsy oaf in left is acceptable when he mashes at the plate, but not running a lumbering slow footed 1B out to RF every day game as well. We really don’t need to see Billy Hamilton manning CF for half the year again do we?
March 15, 20224 yr he will average 7-8 WAR the next 4 seasons with a peak of 10 in an MVP season. My guess is he is top 5 this season and wins World Series MVP in 2023...
March 15, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: he will average 7-8 WAR the next 4 seasons with a peak of 10 in an MVP season. My guess is he is top 5 this season and wins World Series MVP in 2023... I think you mean 22,23,24 and 25.
March 15, 20224 yr Is he locked into the #3 spot? That to me is the single most important part to this season. NO more moving him around, and put him where he stays for the next half decade.
March 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, EloyJenkins said: Is he locked into the #3 spot? That to me is the single most important part to this season. NO more moving him around, and put him where he stays for the next half decade. I doubt it. TA and Jose appear to have emeritus status in the #1 and #3 spots and it's going to make this lineup less than maximized.
March 15, 20224 yr Sure, let's talk about him. 15 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I doubt it. TA and Jose appear to have emeritus status in the #1 and #3 spots and it's going to make this lineup less than maximized. Agreed, but I'm hoping that for the sake of R/L balance they at least talk to Abreu about going TA-Robert-Grandal-Abreu to start
March 15, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Sure, let's talk about him. Agreed, but I'm hoping that for the sake of R/L balance they at least talk to Abreu about going TA-Robert-Grandal-Abreu to start I like R - 1 - TA S - 2 - Moncada R - 3 - Robert R - 4 - Abreu S - 5 - Grandal
March 15, 20224 yr Just now, raBBit said: I like R - 1 - TA S - 2 - Moncada R - 3 - Robert R - 4 - Abreu S - 5 - Grandal Against righties, same. I'm down for moving Moncada down in the order and the other guys up 1 against lefties though.
March 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: Against righties, same. I'm down for moving Moncada down in the order and the other guys up 1 against lefties though. Yeah lefties I like R - SS - TA R - CF - Robert R - 1B - Abreu R - LF - Eloy S - C Grandal
March 15, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, raBBit said: Yeah lefties I like R - SS - TA R - CF - Robert R - 1B - Abreu R - LF - Eloy S - C Grandal yeah, robert in 2 hole for lefties works...and should result in ridiculous RBI chances with TA's lefty mashing.
March 15, 20224 yr Some of these predictions are lofty. I'd be happy if he was more Mike Cameron than Mike Trout. I think he's somewhere in between on average, and that's pretty good. He just needs to stay healthy and be in CF for many years because that's a very important anchor for this org. I don't foresee many problems with corner power hitters and starters, because they've been good at that over the years. The stars they have now are due to starting pitcher prowess of a decade ago, after all.
March 15, 20224 yr Robert is only going to get better. Question, taking hitting out of the equation, who is the better centerfielder, Engle or Robert?
March 15, 20224 yr I'd be shocked if he lasts the whole season to be up for even talks of an MVP.. but I would love to see it.
March 15, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, KBX said: Some of these predictions are lofty. I'd be happy if he was more Mike Cameron than Mike Trout. I think he's somewhere in between on average, and that's pretty good. He just needs to stay healthy and be in CF for many years because that's a very important anchor for this org. I don't foresee many problems with corner power hitters and starters, because they've been good at that over the years. The stars they have now are due to starting pitcher prowess of a decade ago, after all. Hmm, I see him more as falling somewhere between Willie Mays, Thor, and Michael B Jordan.
March 15, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, raBBit said: I like R - 1 - TA S - 2 - Moncada R - 3 - Robert R - 4 - Abreu S - 5 - Grandal This is how I would go too, but I don't think Abreu gets moved out of the 3 hole any time soon.
March 15, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: This is how I would go too, but I don't think Abreu gets moved out of the 3 hole any time soon. He made 37% of his starts last year in the #4 spot.
March 15, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: This is how I would go too, but I don't think Abreu gets moved out of the 3 hole any time soon. From April 17 to June 19 last year, Abreu hit 4th in all but 5 games.
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