7 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Agreed. 

And now Stoney is tweeting late about how good Vaughn will be

Just now, Jerksticks said:

So why is Kenley Jansen at $16M considered adding to a loaded bullpen while Craig Kimbrel at $16M is an untradeable box of milk duds?

Cause all Jansen costs is money. 

5 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Yeah, cause a lot of people thought Conforto would take a 1 year prove it deal or take the QO. 

MLBTraderumors had Castellanos getting a 5/$115M deal, so this came in light than their expectations.  Regardless, I think Conforto gets less Nick given their radically different 2021 seasons.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

And now Stoney is tweeting late about how good Vaughn will be

At least we can rule out the Sox trading Vaughn for a reliever

2 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

So why is Kenley Jansen at $16M considered adding to a loaded bullpen while Craig Kimbrel at $16M is an untradeable box of milk duds?

Because kenley Jansen was deemed to be worth 1 year 16 million. Not 1 year 16 million + a top prospect or a quality mlb player.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

MLBTraderumors had Castellanos getting a 5/$115M deal, so this came in light than their expectations.  Regardless, I think Conforto gets less Nick given their radically different 2021 seasons.

Yeah that seems high. And FanGraphs' crowd source of 4 years and $64 million was way too low. But then again, I don't think the sabermetric crowd has ever liked Castellanos cause of his defense. 

Well he didn’t throw cold water on Conforto 

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

And now Stoney is tweeting late about how good Vaughn will be

At hitting though…he can still do that at DH.  Weird timing nonetheless.

Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Well he didn’t throw cold water on Conforto 

I really can't stand the "X player to X team" people on Twitter. Why make that your entire online persona? It's just fucking weird. 

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

And now Stoney is tweeting late about how good Vaughn will be

He pisses me off so much.

17 minutes ago, chw42 said:

lol rip we're not getting Conforto. 

Yep no way he is coming here now. He will get prolly 5/120 in light of Castellanos deal.

HE GAWN

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2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I really can't stand the "X player to X team" people on Twitter. Why make that your entire online persona? It's just fucking weird. 

Not my profile just saw Stoney replying to others but yeah I agree 

Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Not my profile just saw Stoney replying to others but yeah I agree 

lol I know nobody on this board would subject themselves to that. 

4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Because kenley Jansen was deemed to be worth 1 year 16 million. Not 1 year 16 million + a top prospect or a quality mlb player.

Right I remember the past, but in the present day apparently his 1/16 is market value or amazingly below.  Interesting stuff. 

He did reply to my message though ??

5 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Well he didn’t throw cold water on Conforto 

Did find that interesting.  Has anyone asked Stoney how he expects outfield defense to improve with Vaughn and Sheets out there?

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Did find that interesting.  Has anyone asked Stoney how he expects outfield defense to improve with Vaughn and Sheets out there?

Nah but he just responded to my castellanos posting saying we have enough right handed hitters 

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Did find that interesting.  Has anyone asked Stoney how he expects outfield defense to improve with Vaughn and Sheets out there?

It wouldn't have improved with Castellanos.

4 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

He did reply to my message though ??

Steve knows. 

Interesting no opt outs for castellanos

4 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

He did reply to my message though ??

He’s definitely leaving room open for Conforto.

2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

It wouldn't have improved with Castellanos.

At least the team would have been a lot better with a ~140 wRC+ in RF.

And this is coming from someone who didn't want Castellanos at all.

3 minutes ago, ptatc said:

It wouldn't have improved with Castellanos.

In RF, he’s better than Sheets for sure

You could see how tonight's events would lead to Kimbrel getting salary dumped and Conforto signing with the Sox to a deal that's in the range of what Castellanos got. They were willing to pay in that range for Wheeler, after all.

But it's just difficult for me to believe everything will align for the Sox that perfectly until I actually see it.

11 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

Right I remember the past, but in the present day apparently his 1/16 is market value or amazingly below.  Interesting stuff. 

If he was getting paid market value, then he wouldn't be tradeable at that rate for a viable prospect. I'm not sure you even know what you're arguing.